Griffin could be huge NFL success -- but not be...

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Wrong dude white's are also supreme at the Kicking positions.Oh yeah and by the way the Coaching and ownership too.
And being an Eagle fan you would definitly know about THUG JUNKIE CRIMINAL Q.B'S LIKE VICK.

Ahh yes, the butt hurt neanderthals have spoken once again. You must be their leader. BTW,get a dictionary and a clue while you're at it. I will leave you to attend your clan meeting now. 

Wow, some of the replies on here are just completely mind-boggling.

Anyway, moving on to the subject at hand, for those of you that really care about being objective and want to discuss things like adults, there are some issues with both Luck and RG3 that need to be addressed, but first, I think the combine yesterday showed that athletically, these guys are both great. Secondly, you look at their career stats, and again, everything looks great. RG3 had one mega season, and Luck was a bit more consistent, but in the end, both impress. There will never be a sure thing in the NFL draft, but at the same time, you have to pull the trigger at some point, and these two look to be as good as any to take a chance on. There are risks though.

I will start with Luck, because I believe his risks are fewer. To start, the claim that Luck will be like Leaf, or that I have a "feeling" Luck will be a bust. These are laughable comments. How about we look at facts to determine what is likely? It is not hard to compare Luck's stats to Leaf's. When you do, you will see that there is no comparison. Luck's are significantly better across the board. When you compare them to Manning's, they are much closer - better in some categories, worse in others, but overall, very comparable. Luck has just about everything you could ask for. I am not going to rattle them all off, you can easily find what everyone is gaga about online. However, the one issue that comes up a lot is arm strength, and yes it is a bit of an issue. Unfortunately, most people don't understand what is meant by arm strength when they talk about it. The reference to it is not how far you can throw the ball, but how hard you can throw, and they are not one and the same. Luck can throw the ball down field 70 yards. There is no issue there. What he can't do however is throw the kind of rockets that Brett Farve could. The concern is that in the NFL, you have very small windows to throw in to, and you need that kind of rifle arm sometimes to get the ball in there post haste. Now I highlighted the word "bit" earlier becuase I have seen him throw the rifle ball when needed. However, at Stanford he rarely ever needed to, and so the touch on his ball was always very catchable and kept his receivers in stride, or led them to where only they could catch it.

RG3 to me has a few more concerns than Luck. A lot of it comes down to how the speed of the game is going to change at the next level, and the system he will be playing in. For as fast as RG3 is on his feet, his release is somewhat slow. At the next level, I can see him fumbling quite a bit in the backfield going into his windup. His hands aren't tiny, but under 10 inches, which tells me the ball can come out pretty easily. The other issue is about the system. We hear it a lot, but what does it mean spread vs. pro-style? The spread is usually one-sided reads, which means the QB is looking for a primary and secondary receiver to the left or to the right depending on the defensive alignment. When these options aren't available, it is usually very difficult to look to the other side for more options, so the QB is usually looking to tuck and run at this point. The pro-style offense is based more on zones across the field from left to right that the QB is looking for. The progressions are usually 4 deep with the addition of a 5th checkoff receiver (usually out of the backfield). Getting through these progressions requires an extremely quick mind and the ability to keep your eyes down field when you start to feel pressure. RG3 has never played in this system, and to learn it in the NFL where everything is that much faster is going to be a big challenge for him.

That is my take on these two. I think the edge goes to Luck, but I like RG3 too. I think both have the talent, brains, will and wit to make it at the next level, and I hope they both do providing us with years of good competition. 

40 times aren't a good indicator of game speed anyway. How fast are they with pads on and after running around and getting hit and getting winded? He didn't turn out to be a great passer, but just speaking speed Vince Young, in-game, was faster than half the QBs on that "fastest 10" list. Ditto for Brad Smith.

"RGIII will fail in the NFL. He'll get his knee blown out in week 3, running when he didn't have " Did you actually watch him play? He is a throw-first QB. He was more like Colt McCoy in college than he was like Michael Vick.

"St. Louis should just draft him and trade him to Dallas for a couple picks, Witten and Austin Miles" That's a joke.

I am not sure I would trumpet Billick's eye for QB talent. Afterall, he traded up and took Kyle Boller in the first round, and we all saw how that turned out. That said, RG3 should do very well in the NFL.

Whether he makes it as an NFL star or not, Griffin is not going to be drafted for his speed. The major thing NFL coaches will need out of his speed is the ability to dodge opposing defensive players while in the pocket, and run if/when the opportunity is there to make a pile of yardage. Prisco and Judge tell us all the time that this is a passing quarterback-oriented league. Well guess what Griffin will be called on to do for his NFL team.

Good article about trading up to get rg3 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/
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Normally I agree that a 40 time is worthless for a quarterback - but how the fuck**** is a victory in the Alamo Bowl more important than the combine?

Nothing being discussed here is new. I don't understand what transpired from the workout that fooled anybody. So what if he ran a 4.3 or a 4.5. He projects well as a passing quarterback that can run. If there was no Andrew Luck, he'd be number one. Most years he would be Number one. He probably has the potential to put up better numbers than Luck. But would you take him over Luck? No. I've never seen more people stir the pot more than with this Andrew Luck situation. He's the clear cut number 1 and he's possibly the best prospect ever...better than Elway and better than Peyton. I don't know what more you could possibly ask for in a Quarterback prospect. The guy is literally perfect, from the way he hands the ball off, to his accuracy, to his ability to always make the correct read, to his command in the huddle. He is the PERFECT prospect. If you're a GM, you're not going to pass on the perfect prospect regardless of how much "upside" the next guys has. And that's where we're at here.

The kid already did the most unlikely thing already. He go us watching Baylor football. I think that says enough.