Now go write that letter !

Actually, already done, weeks ago.  I even got a response, very respectful, and a phone call as well.  And apparently a lot more did, because now BSU has backed off confirming the UTM game.  I suspect that it will probably get done, but they have gotten heat for it, unlike the cowards in the SEC who get praised for scheduling 42 cupcake games for next Fall.  Aren't you proud, Bayou?  In the ONLY games your school controls, you get to be a playground bully.  Boy are you tough, and proud of it!  Towson St., N. Texas, Idaho, be honest, is it even possible to do worse?  What happened to the Tigers of Last year, who did it right?  Did boosters complain about it?  Or is it too stressful to play a real OOC schedule?

I love it, the finest conference in America, the best players, highest paid coaches, biggest budgets, and out of 55 possible OOC games, 42 of them against teams that hardly have a chance, and at home to boot.  Gosh, are you guys scared of airplanes too?

You see, up here, we fans want our OOC games to mean something, and we actually back it up.  Down there, all you want is to artificially pad the record by playing no one except a handful of traditional rivalries, a conference schedule, and then cupcake city.  Oh, but you sure can dish it out toward my team, who magically is supposed to figure out how to play teams that refuse to play them.

I see that you still haven't answered the question.  Since none of your guys seem to have any balls to play Boise, who are they supposed to play?

Yeah, yeah, we get it, these almighty schools don't want to risk playing any ambitious up and comers, only suckers dumb enough to only do one and dones.  You bet, it's still....

"play someone tough, Boise, just not us!" 

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Are you all freaks?  My, the craziness of this thread and the loonieness of the posts confounds me as to whether many of you all can be out in public, sans a helmet.  I mean, seriously, do you all ever go back and read your posts?  Remarkable that you all can piss on each other day after day, month after month and yer after year.  Utterly amazing.

I see that you still haven't answered the question.  Since none of your guys seem to have any balls to play Boise, who are they supposed to play?



smiles who are these teams that don't have the balls to play Boise st. From what i remember it was Boise that backed out of the offer from Nebraska and Arkansas if i am not wrong.

What is your hangup about LSU's OOC  schedule, yours isn't any better. Lets talk about your main schedule, you want to talk about Cupcakes as you put it, now their is a list of cupcakes.

Are you all freaks?  My, the craziness of this thread and the loonieness of the posts confounds me as to whether many of you all can be out in public, sans a helmet.  I mean, seriously, do you all ever go back and read your posts?  Remarkable that you all can piss on each other day after day, month after month and yer after year.  Utterly amazing.





Well NCBulldawg if you don't like !! LEAVE !!

Are you all freaks?  My, the craziness of this thread and the loonieness of the posts confounds me as to whether many of you all can be out in public, sans a helmet.  I mean, seriously, do you all ever go back and read your posts?  Remarkable that you all can piss on each other day after day, month after month and yer after year.  Utterly amazing.

You gotta admit Bulldawg, it makes for a great read. Even P-Diffy makes the occasional appearence.
Sam

These Boise threads just go on and on stating and restating the same arguments over and over again. Can't you guys find something more interesting to discuss than Boise's schedule vs. BCS teams' schedules?

If Boise doesn't schedule well enough they get left out just like they did last year. That's easy enough to figure out. So if Boise continues their current scheduling practices they will get left out every year they don't go undefeated and they will get left out some years even when they do go undefeated. Gee, no college degree is required to figure that one out. Notre Dame got so popular by scheduling tough and beating those opponents. Boise will never get popular scheduling light and winning against them. End of story and that should be the end of the argument.

NEXT!

 

Boise that backed out of the offer from Nebraska and Arkansas if i am not wrong.

The bolded part is key. 

Gator Lass,

Not a good thing to paint the Boise fans with such a large brush.  We all have our teams and defend them.  I came to these boards because there are some incredibly intelligent folks out here that know football and I learn a great deal.  But it seems these days the Boards mainly consist of personal attacks and who is using more than one screen name.  Who gives a dang?  If those of you who hate Boise State really do so just stay on your own homepage and then you dont have to waste the finger strokes hating on BSU.  I really wish we could stick to football.  Maybe its just the off season and folks just like to fight? 


Which is why I made it very clear that I was addressing only the special needs Boise fans before we even made it off of the first page of this thread.

Let me know when you post one of these directed at your Boise buddies, huh?  Thanks.

First I never said any such thing.  You suggested boycotting our own program to make changes. I say there is no need for such ridiculous actions when our new AD hasn't done anything to either earn support or not earn support, as yet.  If he does his job and earns it, then he has worked out. If he doesn't, then just as with ANY program, (including yours), he simply can't survive without support.

Yep, and he lost his job.


Oh, yes.  Brilliant.

Dear Sir AD:  I am writing to inform you that your continuation of our long-standing tradition at Boise of scheduling FCS opponents will no longer be tolerated.  Therefore, I will continue to attend all home games and purchase concessions and memorabilia.  You may have my dollars, sir, but you will not have my support.  In addition, I will also demand that you increase the size of our stadium so that more of my disgruntled friends may also give you their dollars in protest.  You have insulted us deeply with these tried-and-true practices, and we no longer like you.

Post Script:  Just kidding.  The only way you really lose your job around this place is to get caught cheating, and only then if it's lack of institutional control.  You're all right in my book!


I wasn't refraining for Smile's sake, so I guess since you won't let it lie, I'll go ahead and answer.   Yes, I happen to agree with him, again.


I have no idea what you are babbling about, but I think everyone gets it.  If we want your opinion, we'll just ask Smiles.



Well Lass, all the reasons given publicly for the sugar picks have proven to be false. What other justifications do YOU think they used for making their decision, if it wasn't association?


I think they drew names out of a hat.  That explains the pick and eliminates your contention that there was any collusion.  Prove me wrong.

Hope that sounds as stupid as your run at that argument sounded.


If you want my opinion on any particular stance of someone, just ask. I have no problem answering, but I'm certainly not going to attempt to list someone elses beliefs or stances. Nor should I.


Yeah.  Except for that post a couple of pages back where you had no problem attempting to identify someone else's beliefs when it came to the ridiculous mail room theory.  Oh, he may have said that, but he really meant...

Are you always this disingenuous?


My core stances are-

I don't believe any game with an opponent from outside the league should count for records inside the league. 

I don't believe any person on an institutions payroll should be allowed to cast a poll vote in the same league as that institution.

I don't believe any program should be allowed to buy home field advantage points.

I don't believe automatic status should apply to only certain conferences within the same league. 

I DO believe that all poll votes and computer programs should be completely transparent and public.

I DO believe that both participants invited to the same bowl game should be paid the same amount.

I DO believe that a fully sanctioned post season should be implemented in conjunction with the bowls.

I DO believe that if all these points were implemented, most of the arguments would disappear.


Okay, but I believe the participants of the "league" as you called it agreed to all of these.  That's kind of what a "league" is.  You know, a voluntary association.  Not really sure where that leaves you.

Has it ever entered your pea sized brain that what you are argueing for in Boise's case, is probably what is happening for those 42 other teams you feel the need to belittle ?  

Wow, what would that make the size of your brain, little fellow?  A grain of sand?

Those "little cupcakes" are getting the chance you claim to want for BSU.  The SEC teams you are demanding be looked down upon for not giving a little guy a chance in BSU's case, are doing just that to the case of the 42 schools you now call cupcakes.

Gee, aren't they generous?  How clueless can you be, they aren't giving "the little guy a chance," not even close.  They're hiring hookers, since they know that their fans, like you, will pay to watch your team play anyone.  And then after 4 straight home games in which they win easily, everyone, from the coaches to the players to the poll voters to the media, and yes all the way down to the lowest of the fans, will be convinced that once again, the team is invincible.  It's amazing, isn't it?  When you beat up on the football equivalent of 3rd graders, anyone can look good.  It's done deliberately, to maximize revenue, not travel any more than they absolutely have to, and to make the conference look better than it probably is.  After all, with 42 creampuff games, the SEC will have a higher winning percentage than anyone.

If you really want to prove something, LSU should do like they did last year every year.  I have nothing but praise for a team that will go to Dallas and play Oregon, and to Morgantown and play WVU.

You really are not that smart are you Smiles ?     Is BSU giving all the little schools they play a H & H ?   Is BSU willing to take a loss in revenue, just to help the little trade schools around them ?

Actually, BSU is doing home and home series with all of the WAC, C-USA, and other nonAQ's they play.  As to loss of revenue, think about it. If LSU played Boise, are you trying to tell me that the TV revenues would be worse than when you play Towson State?   When BSU played VT, it was the 2nd highest rated game in ESPN history, which is why they are helping Boise broker deals with Georgia, Michigan St., and others.  No, LSU would make a lot more money if they played Boise instead.  The real reason is COWARDICE, prove me wrong.

Boise has already demonstrated its willingness to do a one and done game against a major.  But do the math, it's physically impossible to get half of your games at home, if no one is ever willing to come play you.  When schools like LSU have 8 home games and only 4 on the road, someone must then play fewer.  But tell me, are such calculations too difficult for you to understand, you sure write like it.  No, Boise isn't asking LSU to give up money, hell, they'd make more if your AD grew a pair and played them or teams like them.  Look at last year, the program had one of its best money making years ever.

You don't get it, do you?  What I've been advocating all along is that every team, my own included, play a more legitimate schedule.  Enough of the total BS that the elite schools are "giving the little guy a chance."  No, they are lining up easy wins.  If they really wanted to be fair, they'd travel to the other venues.  But the sad thing is that you refuse to acknowledge what everyone with even a "pea-sized brain" can figure out just fine.  The SEC and the other major conferences bring in 3 or 4 really bad teams for almost every team each year for these reasons only, pad the schedule, make more teams bowl eligible, soak their blindly loyal fans, avoid playing teams with a real chance to beat them (cowardice), and protect the coach's jobs by giving teams that don't deserve it a winning record.

I am delighted that you guys are so eager to heap on all sorts of insults towards me.  It just proves that what I'm saying is absolutely correct, and since you cannot defend the practice, you seek to discredit the messenger. 

The trouble is, that the real fools are the ones so eager to call others foolish who actually have a point to make.  None is so blind as he (or she) who will not see.  But hey, Bayou, maybe if you wear those real dark glasses, no one will notice, yes?

By the way, since you guys constantly call me a liar, I need substantiate what i said about TV ratings, this is from the Washington Post, Sept. 2010:

 

Virginia Tech, Boise State set ESPN ratings records

Not only did Boise State's dramatic 33-30 victory over Virginia Tech live up to much of the preseason hype on the field, it also attracted a record amount of eyeballs to the television screen Monday night.

According to ESPN, Monday night's game was the network's most viewed college football game ever in terms of households, and its 7.3 rating was the highest rating for a college football game in 16 years as almost 9.9 million viewers tuned into the telecast. Only USC's game at Ohio State in 2009, which averaged almost 10.57 million viewers, has ever attracted more people to an ESPN college football telecast.

In addition, the game was the most viewed program of the day across all networks — broadcast and cable — and was the highest-rated college football game during the season's opening weekend. The game became ESPN’s most-viewed and highest-rated non-Saturday college football telecast since at least 1990 (when these sorts of things began being tracked by the network)

I am a long time reader of these threads, but a first time poster so please bare with me because I have quite a bit to get off of my chest.  Most of you probably don't care, but to give you a quick background, I was born and raised in Boise, attended Arizona State, and now reside in Phoenix.  I'll admit I'm a huge Bronco fan, always have been and always will be.  In Boise if you played Pop Warner (we call it Optimist football) in the 80's and 90's your first football game of the year was called the Jamboree and it was played on the Blue.  Trust me when I tell you that it is the highlight of the year for every kid football player in the city.  My family has had season tickets since I can remember back in the 1-AA days in the Big Sky.  We Boise fans have seen it all and been through a lot.  I remember the yearly beatdowns from Montana and the 12 year losing streak to those Idaho teams lead by Dennis Erickson and John L. Smith.  I distinctly remember John L. standing on the sidelines with his arms folded, smirking and laughing at us, all the while throwing it deep and calling onside kicks late in the game with the Vandals up by 4 plus scores.  I refuse to forget those days.  I will tell you that I absolutely love college football, love my team, and I am so incredibly proud of what they have been able to accomplish this last decade or so.  It is truly nothing short of remarkable.  I understand the jealousy and flat out hate from certain (but not all) OU, Bama, Florida, Ohio St., and LSU fans on this board.  I respect your programs.  You are elite and have a long standing tradition, but admit it folks, you feel threatened.  You want to belittle and demean Boise and their fans.  You come from a place of hatred and jealousy.  You want to downplay Boise's accomplishments and sadly you go out of your way to tear down the Broncos instead of building up your own teams.  It's very transparent and rather pathetic really.  You want to deal in hypotheticals by saying ridiculous things like if Boise played so and so teams back to back or in such and such conference or didn't have so much time to prepare for....Boise would be....well you get the point.  But let's go ahead and deal with reality and facts.  The facts are that Boise has finished in the top 15 of the coaches polls in 8 of the last 10 seasons, winning the only two BCS bowl games they had the opportunity to play in along the way.  Many of those seasons they have finished in the top 5 or 10.  Just stop and think about that for a second.  That my friends is a model of consistency.  How many schools out there AQ or otherwise would kill to be able to say that they finished 15th or higher in 8 out of the last 10 polls?  And to people like Spinkiller who want to say that they know more than the experts who rank these teams for a living I have news for you.  You do not.  You say that Boise is misranked and continue to play the strength of schedule card.  Well record and SOS are the two and only determining factors that one uses when ranking a team!  It is an extremely heavy factor as it should be.  So keep coming with your hateful, jealous comments.  Boise is the most polarizing team in the nation.  They have become a powerhouse in Division 1 football.  I never thought I'd live to see the day where I could honestly say something like that.  Boise really has officially arrived folks.  And it feels oh so good to say it!        

Boise had another 70 something ranked recruiting class.  Yet ONCE AGAIN, they will somehow "overachieve" due to the Mesiah of all of the Coaching World and a knowledge of the game that has never been seen in over 120 years of College Football.

Shortly, Smiles will tell us how how invalid all recruiting sites are and how they are all paid by Ohio State to rank all players that they recruit 1-10.

Yes, Boise aka "The Little Guy" will take a miserable bunch of misfits and turn them into a Top 5 Contender.  They will prove this by beating the likes of UT Martin, UC Davis, New Mexico, Portland State, Weber State, Mt. Vernon High School and VT by a 2 point miracle.
How does that Boise crew do it folks?

What a moron ole Smiley Boy is.

Wait, they also beat OU and UGA in the last 120 years too. 

Incredible Feats SMiley.

Who's on deck for the Blue Mirage Smiley?

 

Many of those seasons they have finished in the top 5 or 10.  Just stop and think about that for a second.  That my friends is a model of consistency.  How many schools out there AQ or otherwise would kill to be able to say that they finished 15th or higher in 8 out of the last 10 polls?

And the VAST Majority of those teams would have done just that had they played Boise's Schedule my friend.

You want credit?  I will give Boise their due credit. Ready? Here you go:

Over the last 10 years, Boise has been the SECOND Best Mid Major Team out there (TCU were the Kings of the Mid-Majors). Boise is better than Fresno, UC Davis, Portland, Hawaii, New Mexico and Weber State.

Congratulations. 

Now, step up and play a schedule worthy of congratulations, grab your ankles and think about something else. This won't take long.  

That's simply not true and you know it, Spin.  You're speculating again and have absolutely zero proof to back up that kind of an outlandish and absurd statement.  And as far as TCU is concerned, they are an elite team too.  We've had some great battles since 2003.  Once at their place, once at Bronco stadium, and twice at neutral sites in bowl games and we are 2 and 2 against each other.  In all 4 battles both teams finished in the top 25, impressive indeed.  We'll use end of year rankings since that's what really matters.  In '03 it was #15 Boise over #24 TCU 34 to 31.  In '08 it was #7 TCU over #13 Boise 17 to 16.  In '09 at the Fiesta Bowl it was #4 Boise over #6 TCU 17 to 10 and in '11 it was #13 TCU over #6 Boise 36 to 35.  So in the last 4 years TCU has finished #7, #6, #2 (with a Rose Bowl victory over Wisconsin I might add), and #13 in a "rebuilding" year.  It is debatable as to whether or not they have been a superior team over Boise.  I would say it's close, but Boise probably gets the nod.  If you want to compare the Broncos and Horned Frogs and declare TCU the better of the two, then that's fine.  I'll go ahead take that as a compliment!

<strong>And the VAST Majority of those teams would have done just that had they played Boise's Schedule my friend. </strong><br /><br /><strong>You want credit?  I will give Boise their due credit. Ready? Here you go: </strong><br /><br /><strong>Over the last 10 years, Boise has been the SECOND Best Mid Major Team out there (TCU were the Kings of the Mid-Majors). Boise is better than Fresno, UC Davis, Portland, Hawaii, New Mexico and Weber State. </strong><br /><br /><strong>Congratulations.  </strong><br /><br /><strong>Now, step up and play a schedule worthy of congratulations, grab your ankles and think about something else. This won't take long.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><em>NOW THATS FUNNY I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY.</em></strong>

<br /><strong>And the VAST Majority of those teams would have done just that had they played Boise's Schedule my friend. </strong><br /><br /><strong>You want credit?  I will give Boise their due credit. Ready? Here you go: </strong><br /><br /><strong>Over the last 10 years, Boise has been the SECOND Best Mid Major Team out there (TCU were the Kings of the Mid-Majors). Boise is better than Fresno, UC Davis, Portland, Hawaii, New Mexico and Weber State. </strong><br /><br /><strong>Congratulations.  </strong><br /><br /><strong>Now, step up and play a schedule worthy of congratulations, grab your ankles and think about something else. This won't take long. </strong> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />n ow thats funny.

Oh yes it's hilarious, Sooner Shel.  Real appropriate too - very mature, well thought out, and grown up.