Hey Apoc, how's it going? To be honest, I haven't seen Stanton enough to form an opinion, one way or another. I vaguely remember seeing him play for the Lions during their dark days, but I don't remember saying to myself: "This kid's pretty good" or "This kid sux!".......like a certain former Colt wearing number 7....and I'm not quite sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Colts' brass must have seen enough film to want to take a chance on him, although I'm unsure why the Colts didn't go ahead and re-sign Orlovsky, who signed earlier this month with the Bucs. At least with Orlovsky you know what you're getting and the team holdovers that are left would have been accustomed to his mannerisms under center. He would also know the best watering holes to take Luck and which ones to avoid. Now both the number one pick (which I believe will be St. Andrew) and Stanton are gonna have to learn on their own.
The RG3 bandwagon is growing because people love measurables and physical talent.Is that why the guy is being compared to Steve Young? You know the same guy who has a couple of rings and who knew how to manipulate defenses with his mobility AND smarts? RG3 is getting the credit he deserves and in my opinion still isn't getting enough. He won the Heisman last year by being the best PASSER is college football, and I believe completing 70% of his passes and 4300 yards says so. It was one of the best seasons from a college QB in a LONG time. The bonus was that he could also run, NOT the other way around, like Cam did it.
I don't agree with this at all though, especially at QB. Look at the top QBs in the league. How many of them have the biggest arm or run the fastest?That arm is also what dictates the passes the guy can throw and the ones he cannot and what plays he can run. As we've seen, RG3 can make EVERY single one and that was Luck's biggest concern. Yes, he showed he could make the throws that some doubted him on, but again there were never any doubts about RG3's ability. Where Luck got doubted was from his offensive system he was in. He made VERY FEW NFL throws in college and that's why they doubted his arm strength. Again, and as I reiterated in another post, it was SAFE/LOW RISK offense. He wasn't asked to do much at all and NOTHING in comparison to what RG3 was asked to do. Peyton Manning was impressive because he COULD make all throws and he was smart AND he played in the SEC. Hmmm sounds kind of like RG3. Its almost like being in awe at watching what Alex Smith did in San Fran last year when looking at Luck. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.
Ryan Leaf had a bigger arm than Peyton Manning.Yeah, well Tee Martin won a National Championship with a team Peyton Manning couldn't. I figured I would throw some "apples to oranges" logical data in there with yours.
That arm is also what dictates the passes the guy can throw and the ones he cannot and what plays he can run. As we've seen, RG3 can make EVERY single one and that was Luck's biggest concern. Yes, he showed he could make the throws that some doubted him on, but again there were never any doubts about RG3's ability. Where Luck got doubted was from his offensive system he was in. He made VERY FEW NFL throws in college and that's why they doubted his arm strength. Again, and as I reiterated in another post, it was SAFE/LOW RISK offense. He wasn't asked to do much at all and NOTHING in comparison to what RG3 was asked to do. Peyton Manning was impressive because he COULD make all throws and he was smart AND he played in the SEC. Hmmm sounds kind of like RG3. Its almost like being in awe at watching what Alex Smith did in San Fran last year when looking at Luck. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.So you admit that it was the system that limited Luck's ability to showcase himself in college, yet you earlier bring up stats from Griffin's more passer friendly spread offense? Drawing comparisons between Luck and Alex Smith because they both had John Harbaugh in common is ridiculous. Alex Smith wasn't running the offense like Luck did. Smith didn't have the kind of individual success Luck did either. Stanford didnt' have a lot of talent at wide receiver and had its best receiving talent at tight end, kind of like San Francisco. You throw to where the talent is. That doesn't make the two QBs in similar offenses comparable any more than Joe Montana and Donovan McNabb should be compared because they both played in the WFO. Luck not having a lot of talent on the outside to throw to should enhance his desirability, not limit it. Luck more than proved himself with his Pro Day workout, opting to throw not only in strong wind, but AGAINST the wind.
How is Leaf irrelevant? Leaf was debated as being possibly a better choice than Manning because of his bigger arm despite Manning long being considered the safest and surest thing there is. Whether Griffin turns out to be a star or not, the pre draft analogy fits. Luck is the superior prospect when it comes to the things besides physical talent and measurables, so the Colts should take him and not worry about arm strength or speed.
Yeah, well Tee Martin won a National Championship with a team Peyton Manning couldn't. I figured I would throw some "apples to oranges" logical data in there with yours.
