Tag:Toney Douglas
Posted on: January 14, 2012 11:39 pm
Edited on: January 14, 2012 11:40 pm

Point Problem: Knicks have big issues to work out

Posted by Royce Young

OKLAHOMA CITY -- I guess Carmelo Anthony is really, really important to the Knicks. Either that, or they have some pretty serious issues to figure out before they actually start thinking of themselves as an Eastern contender.

Yeah, it's definitely the latter.

We already kind of knew that but after New York signed Tyson Chandler, then started playing a little defense and then beat the 76ers, it was easy to start wondering. But all that was brought back to Earth after the Thunder dismantled the Knicks in Oklahoma City Saturday night 104-92.

Here's where the Knicks faltered: Yeah, their defense was bad and I think an empty chair could've done a better job on Kevin Durant than Bill Walker, but the Knicks issues lie within their offense. They're still playing fast (fifth in the league in pace), but they are playing far from efficient. Scoring almost appears to be a chore at times, Melo or no Melo. All a player the caliber of Anthony does is provides a one-on-one bailout option when the ball stops moving and everyone starts standing.

Why is there a problem though? With Amar'e Stoudemire, Carmelo and Tyson Chandler, there shouldn't be issues, right? While those three form a nice trio, there simply isn't a good option to steer the boat. Mike D'Antoni has been using rookie Iman Shumpert at point guard recently, but changed that plan Saturday by starting Mike Bibby. He says it's not a permanent move, but was more of a matchup thing. But he didn't deny that he's looking for answers.

"You can always search a little bit and we are searching," he said. "When you lose two, you always re-evaluate everything. I'm not ready to say yea or nay [on starting Bibby for good]. It's definitely not Iman's fault or anything like that. It's just trying to find the right combos."

Reality is, neither Shumpert nor Toney Douglas is the answer. They're both nice players, but pretending either is a potential answer at point is like thinking you have a chance with that Hooters waitress that winked at you. Pipe dream, you guys, pipe dream. And as the Heat learned the hard way last season, Bibby isn't either. The hope is that when Baron Davis is healthy that he can take over that job, but that's not at all a guarantee. I mean, that's where things are -- the Knicks are hoping that Baron Davis is the answer at point guard. Think about that for a second.

It's really an interesting situation for New York, because it's one that the Heat are constantly trying to overcome themselves. Except the Knicks are like Miami Lite, a less talented version with less depth and not the same starpower. In truth, the Knicks would kill for either Norris Cole or Mario Chalmers at this point. And if they had one, they might kill a little more too. Or at least get killed less.

(Sidebar: Let me go ahead and throw out what everyone else has probably two thousand times this season: Steve Nash just makes too much sense for the Knicks. I have no idea what they possibly have that could interest the Suns, but with Phoenix not really going anywhere and Nash's contract and career ending soon, you have to give it a real shot. Landry Fields, Iman Shumpert and whatever picks the Knicks have left -- maybe?)

It is still early. The Knicks still have a whole lot of games left and remember, the Heat were 9-8 at one point last season. But I think when we watched that team, we could all see that eventually it would click. I have a hard time seeing that with this Knicks team.

"It's just going to take a while," D'Antoni said. "Almost always we have at least one or two rookies on the floor and without a training camp, excuse excuse, and I don't want to do that, we're just struggling right now a little bit. We just got to work through it."

Said Tyson Chandler: "We need practices under our belt. We need to get better chemistry on both ends of the floor."

That's an easy thing to say. We'll work through it. We're getting better. Give us time. At some point, there have to be results. D'Antoni has been heralded as an offensive guru, but his offense isn't working. And I don't think the blood is on his hands. He just doesn't have the personell. I mean, a team with two top 10 offensive players like Melo and Stoudemire shouldn't rank in the bottom third of the league in offensive efficiency. There has to be a reason for it.

The Knicks want to pretend that they have a new look and a new commitment to defense. And while they entered Saturday's game in the top 10 in points per 100 possessions, they aren't anywhere in the same universe as a team like the Bulls or Heat that can hang their hat on it. The Thunder proved that with their 70-point first half. It's the offense, stupid. It's a problem and unless the Knicks start finding answers, it's not looking like they're going anywhere they didn't go last year.
Posted on: June 19, 2011 2:56 pm
Edited on: June 20, 2011 9:51 am

Trade rumor: Knicks after Wolves G Jonny Flynn?

The New York Knicks are reportedly considering trading for Minnesota Timberwolves point guard Jonny Flynn. Posted by Ben Golliver. jonny-flynn

Clear the decks for Ricky Rubio!

The Minnesota Timberwolves have finally convinced the Spanish point guard to come to the NBA for next season. That means the team must now resolve a problem created when the Timberwolves drafted two point guards in the first six picks of the 2009 NBA Draft.

The easiest way to make sure that Rubio has enough playing time and space to get acclimated to the NBA game? Ship out Flynn, of course.

The New York Daily News reports that the Timberwolves and New York Knicks have discussed a Flynn trade.
The Knicks have had preliminary discussions with the Minnesota Timberwolves about a trade for point guard Jonny Flynn.

No formal deal is in place, but the Knicks are debating whether Flynn, the sixth overall pick of the 2009 draft would be a viable option to back up Chauncey Billups for at least one season. Flynn has become expendable now that the Wolves have signed Spanish guard Ricky Rubio, who was taken one pick ahead of Flynn.

Toney Douglas would likely be the player traded for Flynn.
If All-Star appearances were handed out based on personality, Flynn would be a perennial selection. Unfortunately, a back injury and a rough transition into coach Kurt Rambis' triangle offense have stunted his growth as an NBA player. 

To date, he's proved to be a jitterbug that can provide some scoring punch but not much else. Flynn's fit as a backup point guard would be slightly better than Douglas' but not markedly so. Both are scoring guards, but Flynn has more upside as a distributor. It's quite possible he looks much better as a playmaker when he's sharing the court with Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony rather than Darko Milicic and Martell Webster.

A change of scenery will no doubt do Flynn a lot of good. Trading for Flynn, who's coming off an injury and playing for a terrible team for two years, is the definition of "buying low." One concern: He is on the books for $3.4 million next season, which is a bit more than teams like to pay for a relatively unproven backup point guard. 

The Knicks, of course, have bigger questions at point guard. They will need to move Billups at some point if they hope to become a true championship contender. This trade is definitely one you consider from New York's perspective. The more talent you get behind Billups the better. Flynn's quickness would seem to be a major asset in coach Mike D'Antoni's up-tempo system. 

This wouldn't be a game-changing move for the Knicks, but Flynn's charisma seems like a natural fit at Madison Square Garden.
Posted on: April 19, 2011 5:57 pm
Edited on: April 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Knicks PG Billups (knee) to undergo MRI

New York Knicks point guard Chauncey Billups will undergo an MRI on his left knee. Posted by Ben Golliver.

On Sunday, we noted that New York Knicks point guard Chauncey Billups left Game 1 with a left knee strain, an injury that kept him out of practice on Monday and will officially keep him out of Game 2 on Tuesday night. CBSSports.com's Ken Berger reported that "Billups says when he took off on his left leg, it 'buckled. ... It just kind of gave out on me.'" 

CSNNE.com reports that Billups will undergo an MRI on his knee on Wednesday. "Of course there's concern," Billups told CSNNE.com. "Tomorrow, hopefully I'll have a better idea of what's going on."

The MSG Network also reported that Billups "is walking MUCH better, feels better but told me he'll have an MRI tomorrow in NY." Earlier Tuesday, ESPNNY.com reported that the Knicks said Billups would not undergo an MRI. It's unclear what changed their mind.

In Billups' place, the Knicks will turn to Toney Douglas, a second-year guard out of Florida State who is averaging 10.6 points and 3.0 assists this year.

Here's another look at the play in which Billups sustained his injury.

Posted on: April 19, 2011 1:20 pm
Edited on: April 19, 2011 2:22 pm

Series Reset: Knicks cope without Billups

We reset the Knicks-Celtics series with Game 2 on tap for Tuesday night. Is New York in trouble without Chauncey Billups? Posted by Ben Golliver.

The Narrative:

A breathtaking Game 1 came down to a pair of potential game-winning threes : Celtics guard Ray Allen made his, Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony didn't. The result was disappointing for Knicks fans, but the level of effort wasn't. Amar'e Stoudemire got his numbers, the bench showed up and a more efficient night from Anthony would have meant a Game 1 win. For Boston, point guard Rajon Rondo didn't shoot particularly well but he did put together a near triple-double, which is a good sign for the Celtics, as they are only going as far as Rondo pilots them.

The Hook:

One huge Game 1 sticking point that shakes things up for Game 2: the availability of Knicks point guard Chauncey Billups, who went down with a knee injury late and isn't expected to play on Tuesday. Knicks guard Toney Douglas, a second-year player out of Florida State, is expected to start in Billups' place, and will have his hands full checking Rondo. The numbers on Douglas do offer some hope. The Knicks play better when he's on the court than when he's off, although that's generally come against second-unit players. He's also upped his production during the nine games he started this season (he averaged 13.9 points and 5.7 assists as a starter, compared to 10.6 points and 3.0 assists overall). The issue, as Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni pointed out to SI.com , is how many minutes Douglas will be required to play. It could be a lot. The next guy on the depth chart is aging vet Anthony Carter, who shot 1-4 in 14 minutes during Game 1. In case you were wondering, Douglas averaged 7.5 points and 3.3 assists against the Celtics during the regular season.

The Adjustment:

carmelo-shot-chart One look at Carmelo Anthony's shot chart to the right tells you everything you need to know about what New York hopes to do differently on Tuesday. The breakdown: 5-18 from the field, 2-8 on three-pointers, 4-15 overall on jumpers, just three shots in the paint and a paltry four free throw attempts.

Anthony, one of the league's premier all-around scorers, simply must do better. Attacking Boston's solid interior defense isn't an easy proposition but there really is no alternative. Unless Anthony is able to get to the free throw line, New York will be hoping and praying that its bench shows up big for the second night in a row, a possibility made more difficult by Douglas's move to the starting lineup. 

The X-Factor:

Brilliantly laid out in video form at Posting and Toasting, Celtics center Jermaine O'Neal had a monster Game 1 defensively, blocking four shots and contesting countless others, while looking very agile in Boston's halfcourt defense. On top of all that, he made all six of his shot attempts in 23 minutes. That's the definition of quality minutes from the man tabbed to pick up the slack in Shaquille O'Neal's absence. Can he repeat, or at least approximate, that performance in Game 2?

The Sticking Point:

While all five Boston starters scored in double figures during Game 1, the bench was pretty bad. Delonte West, Nenad Krstic, Jeff Green and Glen Davis combined to shoot 4-15, scoring just eight points and grabbing eight rebounds in a combined 59 minutes. Boston doesn't need all of those guys to step up; really, they'd probably settle for just one. Asking Jeff Green to be that guy feels like a stretch these days, so let's tab Glen "Big Baby" Davis, who started some trash talking  prior to Game 1. Davis has to do a better job than his 1-8 night, since he's being asked to give big minutes behind O'Neal. He's too talented to lay an egg like that twice in a row.
Posted on: April 17, 2011 10:50 pm
Edited on: April 18, 2011 1:57 pm

Chauncey Billups (knee) 'expected to miss' Game 2

New York Knicks guard Chauncey Billups is day-to-day with a strained knee and doesn't know whether he'll be able to play in Game 2. Posted by Ben Golliver.

Monday update: The Associated Press reports that New York Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni said that Chauncey Billups is not likely to play in Game 2 on Tuesday due to the knee injury suffered during Game 1, 
Chauncey Billups is expected to miss the second game of the New York Knicks’ playoff series against the Boston Celtics because of a left leg injury. Coach Mike D’Antoni said Monday the starting point guard was “very questionable” for Tuesday night’s game in the best-of-seven Eastern Conference first-round series.

Original post:

With just minutes remaining in the fourth quarter of New York's Game 1 loss to the Boston Celtics, Knicks point guard Chauncey Billups left the court for the locker room with an injured left knee. Replays showed that Billups fell to the ground awkwardly after attempting a driving lay-up attempt that was challenged by Celtics center Jermaine O'Neal

The MSG Network reported that Billups suffered a "strained left knee" on the play and there there would be an "update [Monday] from practice." Game 2 of the series is scheduled for Tuesday night in Boston.

CBSSports.com's Ken Berger reported on Twitter that "Billups says when he took off on his left leg, it 'buckled. ... It just kind of gave out on me.' He has 'no clue' whether he'll play Game 2."

On the season, Billups is averaging 16.8 points and 5.8 assists. If he isn't able to go in Game 2, the Knicks will have to turn to reserve guards Anthony Carter and Toney Douglas. As Billups (10 points, two rebounds, four assists) was already losing his match-up with Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo (10 points, nine rebounds, nine assists), that would take things from bad to worse for New York. 

Here's a look at the play. 
Posted on: April 17, 2011 9:57 pm
Edited on: April 17, 2011 10:02 pm

Celtics G Ray Allen hits game-winning 3 video

Celtics guard Ray Allen hits a game-winning three-pointer to send Boston past the New York Knicks in Game 1 of their Eastern Conference first round series. Posted by Ben Golliver.

It's been an incredible opening weekend of NBA playoff basketball, filled with plenty of incredible performances, but Celtics guard Ray Allen takes the cake with his game-winning three-pointer to close out Game One for Boston over the New York Knicks.

With the Celtics trailing the Knicks at home 85-84 with less than 20 seconds left, Boston forward Paul Pierce began his team's final possession with the ball near halfcourt. After sustaining a bump from Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony, Pierce waited for Ray Allen to set a pick on Anthony and then flare to the three-point line, where Celtics forward Kevin Garnett set a second pick on Knicks guard Toney Douglas. Douglas went crashing to the court, which freed Allen for an open look from the left angle. He buried it, giving Boston an 87-85 lead with 11.6 seconds remaining.

The Knicks, who were out of timeouts, pushed the ball up the court and found Anthony, who settled for a deep three-pointer with Allen and Celtics guard Rajon Rondo contesting. Anthony's potential game-winner was short, giving Boston an 87-85 victory in Game One of the first round playoff series.

Here's a look at the bang-bang sequence.

Posted on: March 23, 2011 11:01 pm
Edited on: March 23, 2011 11:57 pm

Late-game execution failures doom Knicks

The New York Knicks lost to the Orlando Magic on Wednesday night and the final minutes weren't pretty. Posted by Ben Golliver. carmelo-knicks-magic

The New York Knicks have been hailed as the second coming of the Miami Heat, a bundling of top-end starpower that should be able to execute, if not overwhelm, during crunch time. Much to our collective surprise (and glee), Miami has struggled late in games all season long, especially against top quality competition. On Wednesday night, the New York suffered that same fate, falling apart in ugly fashion down the stretch to lose 111-99 to the Orlando Magic.

I'm as big a fan of Dwight Howard and company's defense as the next person -- the Magic are currently No. 3 league-wide in defensive efficiency -- but New York's late-game failure was a combination of bizarre decision-making, a lack focus, and an inability to pound what had been working earlier in the game. Yes, the Magic defense nudged them along those roads, but the Knicks seemed more than happy to go there.

The contrast in execution between the two teams was striking and unavoidable. During the game's closing minutes, the Magic continuously fed Howard giving the Knicks no choice but to foul him repeatedly, hoping he would miss. He didn't -- shooting 8-8 from the stripe in the game's final two minutes -- and Orlando's lead stretched because of it.

Meanwhile, on the other end, it's not exactly clear what the Knicks were thinking. Carmelo Anthony finished with 24 points on just 12 shots, got to the free throw line 11 times and registered nine assists on the night. Yet, on multiple crucial possessions, other Knicks took the shots. Down six with six minutes to go, Shawne Williams jacked a three-pointer. Down eight with four minutes to go, Chauncey Billups jacked a three-pointer. Down seven with under three minutes to go, Toney Douglas got sent back by Dwight Howard. Down nine with just over a minute to go, Williams inexplicably and carelessly lost the ball out of bounds under moderate pressure near halfcourt. On the very next possession, Williams jacked another three-pointer. Give me a break.

Make no mistake: defense was still an issue for the Knicks, as they gave up 111 points on the night and watched as the Magic went on a 10-3 run to close the game. 

But Anthony, New York's leading scorer on the night, took just one shot, had just four free throw attempts and notched just two of his assists during the fourth quarter. That might be understandable if the team system is flowing, but it wasn't. 

Against quality, playoff-tested competition like the Magic, you can't get away with being unable to get one-on-one stops and being unable to get your best player going late. You might be able to get away with one, but certainly not both, even at home. So the Knicks go down again.
Posted on: March 17, 2011 11:20 pm

Game Changer: Knicks rain from deep

Posted by Royce Young


If the focus is on your defense and the issues with it here's a way to fix it: play awesome offense. That's what the Knicks did Thursday against the Grizzlies, bombing a franchise record 20 3-pointer en route to a big 120-99 win.

Leading the charge was backup point guard Toney Douglas who contributed nine (nine!) of the Knicks 20 3s. The best part? Douglas only needed 12 attempts to do it. He went 10-14 for the game for 29 points and really was about as hot from outside as you'll see a player. The nine 3s tie the Knicks franchise record, also held by Latrell Sprewell and John Starks. Not necessarily elite company to be with, but with a franchise like the Knicks, having your name at the top of any record is special.

The win though was much needed for the Knicks who had dropped three straight and are now in surprising fight for the six-seed with the 76ers. What once appeared to be a foregone conclusion will be a pretty good race to the end it looks like. And beating a good team like the Grizzlies is something to build on. People seem to keep forgetting that this Memphis team is actually pretty darn good.

And it's not like the Knicks played a great game, outside of shooting incredibly well. The defense was better, but it's not like it was leaps and bounds improved. New York still allowed Memphis to shoot 46 percent and the Grizzlies took 30 free throws. That's become a problem with the Knicks too -- they don't defend well without fouling.

But like I said, when you play awesome offense, it excuses mediocre defense. I think that's like one of the five founding principles of basketball or something. There's no defense for great jumpshooting. And that's what the Knicks had. Ironically, the previous franchise record was 19 and it came against the Grizzlies in 2008. So the Knicks just save this stuff for Memphis I guess.

Wins are at a premium for the Knicks any way they can get them, but maybe this is one to build on. Carmelo Anthony played well scoring 28 on 19 shots. Amar'e Stoudemire just played a role scoring 16 on 6-12 shooting while grabbing nine rebounds. This game was about Douglas and the Knicks did a good job of just getting out of the way. Hot shooting isn't something to live by, but momentum is important as the regular season winds down and maybe the Knicks built a little Thursday.


Hold most teams to 84 points and you're winning. Or at least you're close. Unless the team you're playing is the Bulls. Then you're almost definitely losing.

Chicago won its eighth straight, beating the Nets 84-73, while holding New Jersey to just 35 percent shooting. Deron Williams went just 1-12 from the floor for only five points. No way the Nets are beating anyone when that happens.

Derrick Rose wasn't great going 8-23 from the floor for 21 points, but this is the reality with the Bulls -- he doesn't have to be. Rose is going to walk his way to an MVP mainly because he just has to play relatively well for the Bulls to win. They can beat teams like the Nets in their sleep as long as the offense does just enough. Not taking anything away from Rose because he's the offensive focus and without his 21, Chicago's not winning. But he can lean on that defense at all times because Chicago plays it nightly.


Man, I really hate Chicago's green uniforms. But not even those gross unis can ruin this pretty dunk from Derrick Rose.


Toney Douglas: Again, 29 points on 10-14 shooting including 9-12 from 3.

Carmelo Anthony: 28 on 10-19 shooting

Brook Lopez: 22 points and eight rebounds in a loss to the Bulls.
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