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How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

Posted on: February 14, 2012 1:23 pm
Edited on: February 14, 2012 1:27 pm
Carmelo Anthony and Jeremy Lin can flourish if they trust in how their coach has succeeded in the past.
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By Matt Moore 

When the Knicks take the floor in Toronto Tuesday night, there will be more media than Toronto will likely receive at any point this season. There will be multiple national writers in attendance, television crews, tabloid writers and bloggers flocking around a 23-year-old undrafted point guard out of Harvard named Jeremy Lin.

Perhaps you've heard of him.

Linsanity is still at its peak, where it will remain until Lin has a genuinely poor game and the Knicks lose. Both have to happen simultaneously. Lin's last performance against the Timberwolves was not great, but it was still productive if not efficient and more importantly the Knicks won. But whether it's tonight or later this week or later this month, eventually Lin will have a bad game and the Knicks will lose. The fever pitch will abate and the season will move on, as the media machine finds something else to freak out about.

But at that point, the Knicks will still have to try and make this thing work.

The biggest question on Tuesday night centers around not only will Lin keep up his phenomenal play, but will he be able to integrate Amar'e Stoudemire into the action. Stoudemire returns to the Knicks Tuesday for the first time since leaving last week following the death of his brother. Given Stoudemire's struggles not only from the floor this season, but in finding a role in the offense, there are high hopes (to put it mildly) that Lin's operation of the pick and roll will open up things for STAT.

And with good reason.

Lin's best work during this five-game winning streak that has seen his meteoric rise to instant stardom has been in the pick and roll, the area where Stoudemire does the most damage. Years of working with Steve Nash in Phoenix taught Amar'e the angle of attack on the roll and how to create space from the defender depending on his reaction to the screen. Stoudemire's not Blake Griffin, so don't expect Lob City, but Lin's ability to drop the bounce pass between defenders means Stoudemire should open up in the offense. For reference, Stoudemire in his last year in Phoenix had 17.7 percent of his touches in the pick and roll set. This year with the Knicks? Just 6.2 percent. Basically the Knicks have not put Stoudemire in one of his best offensive sets. That's largely because they have lacked a ball-handler to do so. Toney Douglas' decision making struggles in the open floor. He's more of an A-or-B binary option circuit. Pass standing or drive. Shoot or kick.

Lin, however, works much better in the pick and roll. His biggest strength is his patience and comfort off the screen, and his decision-making is key. He understand the timing of the set, or at least he has for the past five games. If the defense hedges on Lin and pulls back to defend the drive from Stoudemire, STAT can pick and pop, shred at the elbow unguarded. If this sounds familiar, that's because it is. This is the same dynamic that brought Stoudemire such success in Phoenix with Steve Nash. Jeremy Lin is not Steve Nash. But Mike D'Antoni is still Mike D'Antoni. And this can work.

So, what, then, of Melo? That's the million-dollar-question.

The debate rages about how to use Anthony effectively alongside Lin. Anthony, after-all, is a big fan of the Isolation set, the ball in his hands, able to navigate the floor and search out his own shot, at which he's an elite scorer. But that's not the most effective offense, as shown by the Knicks' early returns. Most of the talk from both pro and con sides have centered around vague generalities. "Melo will use Lin to create open shots" and "Melo can work on his own and with Lin." Melo himself said Monday all the things you want to hear as a Knicks fan, saying he would be giving Lin the ball and getting out of the way. But there's a specific role that D'Antoni's history leads us to with Melo. If Anthony wants to be the most successful he can be, he doesn't have to sacrifice shots or production. He just has to copy the Matrix.

In 2006-2007, Shawn Marion was playing alongside Amar'e Stoudemire in the final year of the team that came to be known as the Seven Seconds or Less Suns. The pace was what always brought up comments and the play of Steve Nash and Stoudemire brought the praise, but the real function behind the Suns was ball movement and careful shot selection. There's a reason Don Nelson's run-and-gun Warriors didn't touch the Suns' success, because the system relied upon deceptively quality shots. Marion was never really appreciated for his contribution alongside Nash and Stoudemire, and in fact needed years to shed a poor defensive reputation as a result of the system's reputation.

But Anthony is a much better offensive player and a much worse defensive player. So how does he fit?

In 2007, Marion took 13.4 shots per game. 27 percent of his possessions came from spot-up shots, according to Synergy Sports. 22 percent came in transition, and 17 percent came off the cut. In short, he filled in the gaps. Do you want Anthony, who spent 32 percent of his possessions in isolation plays before his injury, filling in the gaps? No, but the gap between Marion's 13.4 2007 field goal attempts and Marion's 18.8 2012 isn't huge. When Nash would split the defense and the third defender would rotate to challenge at the rim, there would be Marion, spot-up on the baseline or cutting to the rim.

Easy shots.

That baseline shot was particularly deadly, with Marion's quick flip release. He had his share of dunks off the attention drawn by the pick and roll as well. They weren't long, mid-range jumpers, they were replicable, makeable shots. 

When you put an elite scorer in a position to make easy shots, your efficiency goes up, which forces the defense to adjust to that, which opens up things for Lin and Stoudemire, which forces the defense... you get the idea.

Anthony can still work in isolation. A drive and kick from Lin means that the second and third defenders Melo has been seeing will be occupied. And Anthony one-on-one in the flow of an offense, in rhythm is deadly, nearly as deadly as him uncovered. There's a way to make Anthony not just good at what he does, but better. To put him in a position to attack the glass. To take the most shots on the team and still not stop the ball. It's complicated. It's tenuous. It relies on Lin being as good if not better than he's been in the offense.

Mike D'Antoni's system has a lot of flaws, draws a lot of criticism, but one thing it can do is create efficient scoring with a talented point guard. He hasn't had that in New York. For the last five games, he's found that in Jeremy Lin. It's an opportunity for Lin, for Melo, for Stoudemire to live up to the potential the Knicks were supposed to have. It may be their last chance to live up to the hype.

Oh, and Anthony should take a look at Marion's defense, too.

Since: Feb 8, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 11:29 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

I keep thinking he must be a fluke, but another game another win and a beautiful last second shot to beat the Raptor. At this point I have to admit he looks for real. It's as great a NBA underdog story as I can remeber. I just don't know how he will mesh with Anthony. I think Anthony is capable of taking less shot and not stopping the ball so much for iso plays, but will he? I think for the Knicks to be successful he needs to adapt. He got his big contract now he needs to change his game so they can win games, he owes it to the Knicks for giving up so much to get him.

Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:47 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

Melo is too yellow, Lin is here to win. Please trade Melo now, or I'll be drinking too much gin.

Since: Jan 6, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:34 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

trade Melo for some other fello!

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:05 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

In the "It's all about me" NBA, there is no way Stoudemire and Melo will allow Lin to feast on their applause pie.
Stoudemire doesn't care. With Melo ballhogging STAT never said anything, instead he let Melo get the shots he wanted. With Melo out of the picture and playing with Lin, the Knicks offense looked nicely balanced between the two of them.  Melo if he defers to Lin should actually have more than enough shots for himself. This offense can easily support 3 scorers, or really 2 main ones and a lesser one. Lin seems to like racking up assists.

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 9:59 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

Melo will drag Lin down. He's a good individula player that doesn't fit well with most teams. Simillar to Iverson.

Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: February 14, 2012 8:26 pm

Stoudemire's and Melo's Ego Can't Fit With Lin

In the "It's all about me" NBA, there is no way Stoudemire and Melo will allow Lin to feast on their applause pie.

Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: February 14, 2012 6:07 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

There's a new rumor in NY that is very HUSH HUSH but they're saying is "all but done"...

It has Melo to LA now for Gasol.

Ironically THAT would be good for both. LA needs someone besides Koby to be a scoring threat outside the basket and LA has defense. Meanwhile, Gasol's game would fit into D'Antoni's system MUCH better than Melo - as a very effective (& very tall) "SMALL" forward!  

Since: May 29, 2010
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:06 pm

Carmelo, the new AI?

Stoudemire can fit in easily. Carmelo needs to change the most. If he doesn't he's going to be the new AI. He needs to learn how to share and move it quickly. Denver underachieved when he was there, he's really under the scope now.

Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 14, 2012 3:45 pm

How Stoudemire and Melo can fit with Lin

I am totally shocked. Matt Moore actually wrote an article that wasn't based on a Tweet. Just check out his other junk, errr articles, from today. I had no idea he knew this many words or could combine them into real, non-Tweet sentences. Somebody give me some smelling salts.

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