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West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Posted on: February 5, 2012 2:00 pm
Edited on: February 5, 2012 2:03 pm
 
By Matt Moore

Jerry West is old school. And while there were certainly players who wanted out and negotiated their way out of their teams during his era, it wasn't the marketing/sponsorships/exposure/sta
r-power league it is today back when he played. West has been involved in the league for decades, was around for the Shaq transformation in L.A.. And in his mind, all this nonsense from players forcing their way out through trade demands should be stopped... by management. From ESPN.com: 
I honestly think I'd call their bluff," West said in an interview on 710 ESPN's Mason and Ireland show Thursday, not mentioning Howard specifically. "I really would, because I don't think any agent or player is going to leave $30 million on the table.

"I just don't believe that's going to happen."

"If I were an executive on a team where a player says he's going to leave, let him leave," West said on 710 ESPN's Max and Marcellus show earlier Thursday. "It would be better than saddling yourself with a bunch of players that are not going to fit in to what you're trying to do -- high-salaried players, in many cases overpaid players by today's standards, that would burden you going forward. "I'd almost rather start over again myself. You're not going to replace that player, but there's an enormous penalty there and it looks like to me like the inmates are running the asylum if you let that happen."
via Jerry West says teams shouldn't give in to players' trade demands - ESPN Los Angeles.

West is basically saying "Orlando, if you trade for a bunch of high-priced vets you're stabbing yourself in the face." And West's right. 

Orlando is reportedly looking for veterans back in a trade for Dwight Howard, in an effort to keep some semblance of a window of contention open. But the reality is that when Howard leaves, the franchise is starting over and having an expensive terrible team is much worse than a rebuilding terrible team because of the limited capacity for improvement. 

But more to the point, West's advocation of calling the bluff is salient. How are players ever going to be deterred from trade demands and scuttling seasons if there's no punitive reaction from teams? Forcing Howard to walk away from a significant amount of money may not stop players like Howard from their plans, but it'll make them think twice and at least give those smaller market teams some leverage. 

West is a former member of the most star-studded, bandwagon-hijacking franchise in history (though his relationship with the Lakers has been strained at times), and he's advocating for smaller market teams to stand up for themselves. Unfortunately, the era may have simply changed. After "The Decision" and the Melo trade last season, it's hard to see things reversing direction, for anyone. 

Comments

Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:47 am
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

One more time here....West retired from Memphis a YEAR BEFORE the Pau Gasol deal, a fact people like to overlook or else it's just ignorance.



Since: Feb 6, 2012
Posted on: February 6, 2012 4:29 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Din't West trade Pau Gasol while at Memphis?...Isn't that an example of a small market trading a 'star'




Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2012 4:08 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Thats all fine an ddanddy Jerry but when you know your stars are not going to resign with you then you make a trade and try and get something out of it other than the excpetion. Is he a little bitter about Paul and now Howard?



Since: Jul 10, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 2:39 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Didn't they also try and trade for Chris Paul a few weeks ago?  What about their trade of Shaq to Miami?  Maybe West is a little senial.  He is getting up there in age.
YesUrAMoron, the irony of your name is startling.   Jerry West is GM of Golden State Warrios.  The Warriors are not the Lakers, which means, no, he was not trying to trade for Chris Paul a few weeks ago.   And even if he were, that is not him trading away a star players.  If someone wants to trade away their star player, West, like any smart GM, would try to get that player.

And YesUrAMoron, West was GM of the Memphis Grizzlies when the Lakers traded away Shaq.   The Grizzlies are not the Lakers, which means, no, West did not try to trade Shaq to Miami.

And YesUrAMoron, senile is not spelled "senial".  Are you up there in age?

 



Since: Jan 11, 2012
Posted on: February 6, 2012 2:33 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Many of them are thugs, so prison inmates ain't a bad comparison. At least that's what my friend Nordly Barnstormer told me last week over tea.

Pat Gray
Cavendish, Vermont



Since: Jul 10, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 2:29 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

Wasn't West responsible for trading Gasol from Memphis to the Lakers? That seems counter to his statement here. Gasol was the main star on that Memphis team and he traded him essentially for his little brother and provided the Lakers with two more rings.
Runtgamer, no, West was not responsible for Gasol going from Memphis to the Lakers.  West retired from his job as GM of the Grizzlies the end of the previous season.  He had nothing to do with the trade.



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 1:37 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

@kapowow & @ romeobodeodo

I don’t understand what make you think that Cleveland  did not receive compensation for LeBron signing with the Hear. You are wrong about Cleveland getting nothing in LeBron going to Miami.

The Cleveland Cavaliers agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with the Miami Heat to acquire the rights to five future draft picks and receive a traded player exception for free-agent forward LeBron James,

"This deal provides Cleveland with many assets and additional flexibility as they go into the coming years

Cleveland now owns two of Miami’s first-round draft picks starting no earlier than 2013 and continuing through 2017, the Heat’s 2012 second-round pick from New Orleans, and the future second-round pick Miami acquired from Oklahoma City. Additionally, Cleveland will have the right to swap 2012 first-round picks with the Heat. The trade also gives Cleveland a very large trade exception, which the Cavaliers can now use in trades within one calendar year.

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/t

rade_100710.html

“ONE MAN’S OPINION”





Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 1:29 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

romeobodeodo
You are wrong about Cleveland getting nothing in LeBron going to Miami.

The Cleveland Cavaliers agreed to a sign-and-trade deal with the Miami Heat to acquire the rights to five future draft picks and receive a traded player exception for free-agent forward LeBron James,

"This deal provides Cleveland with many assets and additional flexibility as they go into the coming years

Cleveland now owns two of Miami’s first-round draft picks starting no earlier than 2013 and continuing through 2017, the Heat’s 2012 second-round pick from New Orleans, and the future second-round pick Miami acquired from Oklahoma City. Additionally, Cleveland will have the right to swap 2012 first-round picks with the Heat. The trade also gives Cleveland a very large trade exception, which the Cavaliers can now use in trades within one calendar year.

“ONE MAN’S OPINION”





Since: Nov 1, 2010
Posted on: February 6, 2012 12:38 pm
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

"...there's an enormous penalty there and it looks like to me like the inmates are running the asylum if you let that happen."

I like how he view NBA players as prison inmates. Ridiculous!



Since: Aug 10, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2012 10:40 am
 

West thinks teams shouldn't trade stars

I'm having a tough time reading some of these comments. Jerry West is a joke? Jerry West is senial?  As a former GM, of course he says managment should play tough w/ players who demand a trade? Listen everyone, West is a genius in the world of basketball. He's a former (HOF) player, and the logo of the flipping league, for God's sake.  He was a coach and GM who orchestrated not one, but two of the greatest dynasties in NBA history. And to the guy who claimed he was part of the Chris Paul "trade", please note that he hasn't been part of the Lakers' decision making for the better part of 10 years. I agree that the game has changed, and if teams can get a package like the Nuggets did from NY, then God's speed to you. But only the Knicks and Nets (w/ Utah) would be dumb enough to trade your franchise for players who won't make a difference for your team.  LeBron, the Durantula, Kobe (a few years ago), ok, I agree, trade away the flotsam and jetsom of the garbage that makes up 70% of the NBA rosters. But please, don't lump Jerry West in the group of dumbies like the Knicks and Nets ownership. He even made the Grizzlies relevant. Please, people, don't make stupid comments.


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