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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
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Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect.

CSNPhilly.com reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week

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Since: Nov 4, 2008
Posted on: January 31, 2012 12:19 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

they have felton before the carmelo trade, whom which is that pass first point gaurd i was talking about.  amare's strength is the pick and roll, anyone who watches amare play knows this. should the sixers really sacrifice the excellent ball distribution and overall team play for a two man game?



Since: Jul 13, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2012 10:48 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm amare???? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE(and im begging), just pleaseeeeeeeeeeee dont get him. if this deal involves thad young or jrue holiday whichi i believe it would have to then this is a horrible trade for the sixers...


elton Brand(who you can amnesty next season if ya want), evan turner OR lou williams and a first round pick. THATS ALL. thaddeus young is one ofthe best defenders in the game and is probably theb est hustler in the game diving all over the place. we need him. jrue holiday is gonna be one ofthe best pg's in the league  within the next couple years while amare's knees will be surgically repaired like 5 times. i wouldnt give up jrue or thad for amare or even howard unless we got back another good player too. thad and jrue?? BAHAHAHAHA no way amare is worth them 2.

elton brand, lou or evan and a first. take it or leave it. and if you do come here amare you'll be run our of town if you dont play like a team and play DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO SIXERS!!!! and go for howard not amare. dont pull a NY knicks move and gut the whole team for a center or a PF with bad knees and 83mill left. whichi he isnt worth. you cant win with a center carrying your team unless its shaq or wilt. and howard surely isnt that. he cant hit FT's cant shoot from anywhere outside the paint and thats being a little fair cause howard wouldnt make a shot a foot in front of the free throw line. i say stay as is and amnesty brand next year and then have nocioni's and brands contracts off the books. thats 25 millions to add to this already monster of a team...


GO SIXERS!!!!!!!



Since: Mar 21, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 4:33 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

you're crazy if you think this trade would ever happen



Since: Jul 24, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 4:26 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?


it's pretty obvious the only way amare is effective is when he's paired with a passing point gaurd. he was at times dominant with steve nash dishing the ball in phoenix and he was pretty darn good with felton and then later billups last year.  for those calling for carmelo to be traded, it won't solve anything unless they get a quality true point gaurd in return that will compliment amare's limited offensive capabilities, and quite frankly, the sixers don't have that type of point gaurd, so even if amare gets traded to the sixers, he'll be useless there too

You are making a sweeping comment that Amare is unable to score unless he is paired with an All Star point guard who averages 10+ assists a game.  Your comment is obviously based on his career with the Suns and then the extreme opposite with the Knicks.  The Sixers don't have one dominant passer on the team (true) but they have three guys in Holliday, Turner and Iguodala who dont demand the ball and are unselfish, willing passers.  You can't just make that assumption just because he isn't putting up the numbers that you had hoped for in New York.  Especially considering that he was playing much better with the Knicks before Carmelo came aboard.



Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 3:10 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

This is a stupid topic. The Knicks are not trading Stoudemire to the Sixers. The team is off to a terrible start. They have the worst game coach in the league. Makes zero adjustments during the game. Watch how every game goes basically the same way, the Knicks have a decent first half then get blown out after halftime, followed by a late run to make it look closer. If Baron Davis who was an after thought doesn't get the offense organized this will continue to be an unwatchable team. They have enough talent to play at least 500 basketball, but they really are not pushed or coached well enough to win even just half there games. All this Carmello bashing is idiotic. He's a huge talent who has been playing hurt all season. No one was complaining when he almost single handedly won the first two games in round one of last seasons playoff series with Boston. Doc Rivers coached circles around Dantoni.



Since: Nov 4, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 3:09 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

it's pretty obvious the only way amare is effective is when he's paired with a passing point gaurd. he was at times dominant with steve nash dishing the ball in phoenix and he was pretty darn good with felton and then later billups last year.  for those calling for carmelo to be traded, it won't solve anything unless they get a quality true point gaurd in return that will compliment amare's limited offensive capabilities, and quite frankly, the sixers don't have that type of point gaurd, so even if amare gets traded to the sixers, he'll be useless there too.



Since: May 1, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 3:06 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Good idea Sixers..... maybe someone should look at what CWebb did after the 6er's grabbed him, or how Brand stats stack up to his salary.  Might be a good idea not to overpay for a declining PF this time around.



Since: Jul 24, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 2:36 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I'd trade Amare, Toney Douglas and D'Antoni tomorrow for Thad Young, Lou Williams and a #1 draft pick.
But we all know the trade ain't gonna happen!!!
Why? Because it makes too much sense folks!!!

I appreciate a Knicks fan who has a realistic view of what Amare's value is.  Seems like alot of people want to believe that he has similar value to players like Dwight Howard, Chris Paul or Deron Williams.  Amare is a star, but not a superstar.  He is not on these players level. 

Having said that, I think he would be a good fit for the Sixers (if there is any chance of that happening) because the Sixers have a bunch of unselfish guards/ forwards in Jrue Holiday, Evan Turner, and Iguodala who can get him the ball in good positions and make his numbers mean something.  His shooting percentage would all of a sudden balloon into the 50's where they belong.  They also play a defensive style that could make him less of a liability on that end of the court. 


   


  



Since: Jan 30, 2012
Posted on: January 30, 2012 2:20 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Hi,i write from Italy.
Sorry for my terrible english,i want say this:here D'Antoni is a legend,like player & like coach.
I think that GM take players and not considering coach opinion.
George Karl always dance for trade of Melo,a great overrated player.
I'm sure Melo isn't a favourite type of player for coach D'Antoni.
I think that the trade was make for commercial business not for improved Knick's team.
There are no words for this crazy trade,Gallo,Chandler,Felton & Mozgov plus 2 first round pick is a great robbery.
Why Stern don't stopped it ?
Now Knicks have a iper-overrated small forward,don't have a point guard,don't have a shooting guard,don't have a decent back up center and don't have 2 first round picks.
This is a blame for D'Antoni ? 



Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 2:03 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

The sixers have been exciting to watch so far this season. Stoudemire would ony sweeten the deal with how they are playing this season.  Hope they get him and continue their success.


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