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Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

Posted on: January 6, 2012 9:50 am
Edited on: January 6, 2012 10:15 am
 
By Matt Moore


If Knicks fans want a reason to believe in the quality of the Tyson Chandler acquisition, look no further than Iasiah Thomas. Because he didn't like it. The New York Postreports: 
Conveniently appearing on the Sid Rosenbug Show on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Bilups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard Chris Paul with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the Clippers.

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

...

“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’
via Isiah Thomas, former Knicks president, not thrilled with Tyson Chandler acquisition - NYPOST.com.

Thomas is right, here.

I know, I know. We're uncomfortable with that statement as well.

But it has less to do with the state of the league than D'Antoni says. The Bulls teams that ended the Pistons' run didn't have great point guards. Yes, they had the greatest shooting guard of all time, but calling Jordan a guard is like calling a T-Rex a lizard. Yes, it's technically true but you don't compare its danger level to a gecko. Furthermore, the Lakers' dynasty under Phil Jackson featured a star shooting guard, but also had Derek Fisher at point guard. Billups was always going to play point gaurd for the Knicks, and the shooting guard scoring load on the perimeter is held by Carmelo Anthony. 

But the Knicks do need a point guard, because of their coach. D'Antoni is under heavy fire from fans and pundits right now, despite the fact that it's clear this is not the roster he would assemble if he had his choice. His system needs a playmaker. Anthony's only play is to score. It's not just Steve Nash. The Knicks looked more cohesive last year with Raymond Felton who is a huge downgrade from Nash offensively. It's like trying to run a car without an ignition system. So in that sense, Thomas is on target. 

But here's where he's wrong.

Chandlr wasn't the wrong acquisition. Chandler has brought defense and a better attitude to the Knicks. He can change the course of a game and provides a defensive balance to D'Antoni's offensively-geared staff. Chandler is not the poor fit for the Knicks. Anthony is.

Anthony is a scoring wing. But even that's fine and great in D'Antoni's system. And he's a small forward, who next to Amar'e Stoudemire, could be great. But Anthony is primarily an isolation, off-the-drible shooter. He's a great rebounder, and that's a legitamate boost for the Knicks, but offensively, there's not much more of a worse fit for the Knicks an D'Antoni than Anthony.

Chandler wasn't where they went wrong. And keeping Billups wasn't a mistake, as he has passed the point where he can consistently contribute efficiently, and isn't a playmaking guard at this point. But the Knicks' design may have been damaged already... by Thomaz' involvement in the Anthony saga.
Comments

Since: Mar 29, 2008
Posted on: January 7, 2012 9:33 am
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

I don't know why this guy is given any press, in his post nba player career he has been an ABSOLUTE failure. Each place he has gone, the Raptors, the CBA, and the Knicks, have all been severely damaged (or bankrupt, in the CBA's case) as a direct result of his handy work.

Also,
I have the feeling you didn't have anybody proofread this article...at least 3 or 4 really bad errors. I'm no genius, but jeez guys....



Since: May 29, 2010
Posted on: January 7, 2012 3:45 am
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

WHO IS THIS THOMAS GUY AND WHY IS ANYONE LISTENING TO HIM?



Since: Mar 12, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 9:48 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

GO AWAY!!! EVERYBODY HATES YOU ISAIAH!!!



Since: Jul 28, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 8:22 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

Isaiah doesn't like it??? Cool!  Must be a great move then!!  Geaux Knicks!!!   Oh and BTW as part of the Clippers deal Chris Paul agreed not to opt out this Summer.



Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2012 8:18 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

This is in the same vein as "Your old Girlfriend, is not happy with your new choice of a Beauty Queen with a PhD".       This is a guy whose post playing career is pocked with "events" that should make him focus on coaching only.    



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 7:50 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

If fans want a reason to believe in the quality of the acquisition, look no further than Iasiah Thomas. Because he didn't like it. The New York Postreports
Conveniently appearing on the Sid Rosenbug Show on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Bilups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and . The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the .

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

...

“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’
via .

Thomas is right, here.

I know, I know. We're uncomfortable with that statement as well.

But it has less to do with the state of the league than D'Antoni says. The teams that ended the ' run didn't have great point guards. Yes, they had the greatest shooting guard of all time, but calling Jordan a guard is like calling a T-Rex a lizard. Yes, it's technically true but you don't compare its danger level to a gecko. Furthermore, the ' dynasty under Phil Jackson featured a star shooting guard, but also had at point guard. Billups was always going to play point gaurd for the Knicks, and the shooting guard scoring load on the perimeter is held by Carmelo Anthony. 

But the Knicks do need a point guard, because of their coach. D'Antoni is under heavy fire from fans and pundits right now, despite the fact that it's clear this is not the roster he would assemble if he had his choice. His system needs a playmaker. Anthony's only play is to score. It's not just . The Knicks looked more cohesive last year with who is a huge downgrade from Nash offensively. It's like trying to run a car without an ignition system. So in that sense, Thomas is on target. 

But here's where he's wrong.

Chandlr wasn't the wrong acquisition. Chandler has brought defense and a better attitude to the Knicks. He can change the course of a game and provides a defensive balance to D'Antoni's offensively-geared staff. Chandler is not the poor fit for the Knicks. Anthony is.

Anthony is a scoring wing. But even that's fine and great in D'Antoni's system. And he's a small forward, who next to , could be great. But Anthony is primarily an isolation, off-the-drible shooter. He's a great rebounder, and that's a legitamate boost for the Knicks, but offensively, there's not much more of a worse fit for the Knicks an D'Antoni than Anthony.

Chandler wasn't where they went wrong. And keeping Billups wasn't a mistake, as he has passed the point where he can consistently contribute efficiently, and isn't a playmaking guard at this point. But the Knicks' design may have been damaged already... by Thomaz' involvement in the Anthony saga
 
It is unbelievable how many spelling errors this so-called professional writer committed. 7 spelling errors and he forgot to space out reports from Post. It's truly pathetic. How can you possibly misspell both Thomas' first and last name and call yourself a basketball writer? Matt Moore should hang his head in shame. He is to writing what Thomas is to general managing.

Hey, I only made one and I'm not a professional writer!Cool



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 7:45 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

If fans want a reason to believe in the quality of the acquisition, look no further than Iasiah Thomas. Because he didn't like it. The New York Postreports
Conveniently appearing on the Sid Rosenbug Show on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Bilups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and . The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the .

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

...

“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’
via .

Thomas is right, here.

I know, I know. We're uncomfortable with that statement as well.

But it has less to do with the state of the league than D'Antoni says. The teams that ended the ' run didn't have great point guards. Yes, they had the greatest shooting guard of all time, but calling Jordan a guard is like calling a T-Rex a lizard. Yes, it's technically true but you don't compare its danger level to a gecko. Furthermore, the ' dynasty under Phil Jackson featured a star shooting guard, but also had at point guard. Billups was always going to play point gaurd for the Knicks, and the shooting guard scoring load on the perimeter is held by Carmelo Anthony. 

But the Knicks do need a point guard, because of their coach. D'Antoni is under heavy fire from fans and pundits right now, despite the fact that it's clear this is not the roster he would assemble if he had his choice. His system needs a playmaker. Anthony's only play is to score. It's not just . The Knicks looked more cohesive last year with who is a huge downgrade from Nash offensively. It's like trying to run a car without an ignition system. So in that sense, Thomas is on target. 

But here's where he's wrong.

Chandlr wasn't the wrong acquisition. Chandler has brought defense and a better attitude to the Knicks. He can change the course of a game and provides a defensive balance to D'Antoni's offensively-geared staff. Chandler is not the poor fit for the Knicks. Anthony is.

Anthony is a scoring wing. But even that's fine and great in D'Antoni's system. And he's a small forward, who next to , could be great. But Anthony is primarily an isolation, off-the-drible shooter. He's a great rebounder, and that's a legitamate boost for the Knicks, but offensively, there's not much more of a worse fit for the Knicks an D'Antoni than Anthony.

Chandler wasn't where they went wrong. And keeping Billups wasn't a mistake, as he has passed the point where he can consistently contribute efficiently, and isn't a playmaking guard at this point. But the Knicks' design may have been damaged already... by Thomaz' involvement in the Anthony saga
 It is unbelievable how many spelling errors this so-called professional writer committed. 7 spelling errors and he forgot to space out reports from post. It's truly pathetic. How can you possibly misspell both Thomas' first and last name and call yourself a basketball writer? Matt Moore should hang his head in shame. He is to writing was Thomas is to general managing.



Since: Jul 5, 2010
Posted on: January 6, 2012 6:47 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

I always forget who the last team was to win an NBA title relying solely on a potent offense.




Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 6:38 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

Classic Isiah Thomas.  Throw the GM under the bus, hope he gets fired, so he can try and get the job.  What a scumbag.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: January 6, 2012 6:31 pm
 

Thomas 'not thrilled' with NY getting Chandler

Your right, they did gave up way to much for Melo. It's no coincidence that Denver was a better team once they dealt him to NY. They went from being one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA with him, one of the better ones without him. Even this season they are one of the most entertaining teams to watch. BUT, the Knicks were actually in pretty good shape with Billups as the PG. Now they are relying on an unproven rookie, a guy who is hurt more than he plays..and a guy who was terrible for the Heat last year. 

On the other hand.. Thomas attacking any teams moves is funny.. this is the guy who single handedly set the team back years and years. They had to hire someone to specifically get rid of all the bad contracts he saddled them with. Jared Jeffries, Eddy Curry,Jerome James etc.. trading for Marbury wasn't the brightest move either. Jeffries, Curry & James are three of the worst contracts in the past 10 years.


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