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Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

Posted on: December 18, 2011 10:34 am
Edited on: December 18, 2011 11:27 am
Posted by Royce Young

It's been more than a week since David Stern's office vetoed a trade sending Chris Paul to the Lakers for "basketball reasons." In that time, a deal got done sending Paul to the Clippers, Stern denied all the allegations and criticisms blaming source-mongering journalists and the expectation was everything would go away. We'd all move on.

For the most part, people have. We're all excited to see CP3 lobbing to Blake Griffin, all excited to see how or if the Clippers can challenge the Lakers in Los Angeles and excited to see if the balance of power just shifted in the Western Conference.

But there are people that haven't moved on. Most notably the Houston Rockets.

Lost in the original CP3 mess was that the Rockets came up as major losers. The Lakers didn't get their man, Stern's reputation took a hit and the Dell Demps and the Hornets had to restructure a deal to get more youth. But no big deal, all that stuff can be fixed. The Rockets though, were left empty-handed after thinking they were about to land one of the elite power forwards in all of basketball.

And they haven't forgotten. Not just because the trade didn't work out for them, but because they feel that Stern has sort of spit in their face with his damage control of the situation. Via the Houston Chronicle:

Stern said in a media conference call last week that he was only "generally informed about the discussions with teams."

He emphasized that Demps never thought the deal to be complete and that his decision as final say on the move was not unlike the customary role of owners during trade negotiations.

But according to two individuals with knowledge of the talks, Demps had assured Rockets general manager Daryl Morey and Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak throughout the day that Stern and other NBA officials had been given all the details of the deal and had signed off on it.

"He said that David was briefed and that it was a done deal," one of the individuals with knowledge of the talks said. "He (Demps) said multiple times that he briefed both of his local officials, (Hornets president) Hugh Webber and (Hornets chairman) Jac Sperling, and they and Dell at regular intervals were updating (NBA vice presidents) Stu Jackson and Joel Litvin and that they told David himself throughout the day. Also, Hugh and Jac, who were updating the league office, understood it to be a deal."

Rockets general manager Daryl Morey was asked about the situation Saturday and declined comment based on the advice of legal counsel. So that's not a good thing. The whole organization is ticked, especially owner Leslie Alexander.

But Morey and Alexander were livid about Stern's action, according to the person with knowledge of the discussions that day and since. Alexander had tried to speak directly with Stern after the deal was originally nixed and again as Morey, Demps and Kupchak tried to rebuild the deal, but did not get a returned call until after the Lakers had pulled out of the discussions.

By then, the person said, Alexander had no interest in speaking with Stern and has declined to speak with him since.


"You (Alexander) can say he was very angry," the person, speaking on condition of anonymity, said. "He was on the phone with Daryl too many times that day to count. When the deal finally got done, he got a call from Daryl saying the deal was done. Afterwards, the commissioner said he didn't think the deal was done. It was amazing. Daryl is extremely efficient and does things the proper way. (Lakers owner) Jerry Buss has been in the league 30 years and has made countless deals and thought the deal was done. Mitch Kupchak thought the deal was done. There was no question in his (Alexander's) and Daryl's minds the deal was done."
Stern maintained on a conference call after the Clipper trade went through that the deal was never done, but was just something in the talking phase. Which obviously someone in the Rockets' organization sees as a complete lie.

This story isn't over. It's not going to go away quite yet. It would, except the Rockets feel like they got screwed, which they did. And they're going to try and make sure everyone hears about it.

Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:37 pm

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

So Kim Jong Il, I mean David Stern has such an over inflated ego and view of himself it is amazing.  Talk about a guy who takes his position as one of ultimate authority and's a joke.

Personally I do not care about the NBA, if it went away tomorrow I would not miss it or even know about it if it were not headline news.  With that said, it does not take an NBA fan to recognize what is going on here.  Stern wants control so he vetoed the Laker/Hornet trade even though it helped everyone in the deal; why would he do this?  It's simple, he can.  Never mind that the Rockets (small market team) would be better and CP3 would fit nicely in the Laker line-up and the Hornets would have a dominant inside game, it is not what Stern wanted and that is all that matters.

How in the world Stern has a position of such power is beyond me.  He should not be able to be directly involved with trades that impact a team the league owns other than to make sure that CP3 is not traded for Luke Walton and draft pick........the deal was fair, and met with the new labor deal guidelines.

I do feel the worst for the Rockets, they got totally blind-sided here.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:35 pm

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

This proves what we all already know.  David Stern vetoed the trade as commissioner of the NBA, a seperate entity than the league owned Hornets.  Stern overstepped his boundaries and caved to pressure and tried to use a loop hole that shouldn't exist in the first place to cover it up.  Both Houston and the Lakers should be fuming hot and should carry own with any lawsuits that are needed.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:29 pm

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

I can understand why they are po'd and they should be. But as a Rockets fan I am happy that this didn't go through because they were giving up wayyyy too much for Gasol. 

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 11:21 am

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

Awww...Poor Laker fans are butt-hurt too? Act like you have won a championship before
This has nothing to do with the world revolving around the Lakers.  Part of the way you win championships is making good trades for players to upgrade your team.  That is what the Lakers tried to do here, but despite the trade meeting all NBA rules, Stern nixed it because a few small market owners did not like. 

Additionally, part of the whole CBA fight was to have big market teams spend less money.  the Laker trade for CP3 would have lowered the Laker's payroll (before any extention to CP3 and signing a replacement for Pau/Odom) by $20million plus $20million in luxury tax.  The small market teams did not really want that because its less free money to them without having to earn it -- so much for reducing payrolls and "leveling the playing field". 

I certainly hope then that we do not hear anymore of the crap from the last several years about how the NBA is biased toward the Lakers and Celtics or trying to arrange a Laker -Celtic or Kobe vs. LeBron Finals.

Whatever happened to drafting and developing players?

Society has gone soft...everyone wants stuff just given to them
What is your point?  We're talking about two TRADES --both to a large market team, neither one "drafted and developed" CP3.  The only difference is a group of small market owners decided they did not want Paul on a successful Lakers franchise but would rather he be rented to the Clippers and, in the process, screwed the small market Rockets.  If the Lakers are "soft" and wanted something handed to them (if you call giving up two of the better big men in the league having something handed to you) the Clippers are no different.

Since: Dec 19, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 11:15 am
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Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 10:46 am

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

And can someone explain to me how the CP3 to Clips deal benefits more teams (and NO) than the CP3 to the Lakers did?

who ever said the chris paul deal was suppose to benefit anyone other than the hornets and the team that offered the best deal for paul??  sure if your looking at it as the number of teams involved, i guess you could say the lakers deal would have been better, but when your looking at the fact that the 2 best players in that deal, WOULDNT HAVE WENT TO THE HORNETS, doesnt make the deal seem to fair, so NO gives up paul to the lakers, the lakers give pau to the rockets, and an old lamar kardashian to the hornets, the rockets send an old scola, with a semi old kevin martin with a crappy draft pick to new orleans,

the hornets would have been better off keeping paul if all they were getting in return was the rockets and lakers left overs, at least the clippers offered a young star they really didnt want to part with in eric gordon, as well as the t-wolves first round pick, which could easily become a top 5 pick, if the hornets struggle this year, they put themselves into the same situation the cavs were in last year, possibly having 2 top 5 picks in one of the best draft classes since the LBJ/ wade/melo draft, so add a young eric gordon, with a young trevor ariza, and a serviceable emaka okafor/jarrett jack/chris kaman, add in 2 top draft picks, and you have a solid young team for the future, which is the best way to get someone to buy this franchise, stern knew that no one was going to want to buy a franchise with a bunch of washed up players like lamar odom, with no real future beyond those players, the clips deal was by far the better deal, and quite frankly im ashamed that demps even considered the first offer, id be willing to bet orlando would have offered a better deal for a 1 year rental of paul than what we would have gotten from the "entitlement franchises" such as the lakers and rockets

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 10:05 am

They Should Erect a Statue of David Stern........

They Should Erect a Statue of David NBA fans could urinate on it regularly!!!

Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 9:39 am

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

Can anyone tell me as I'm not a big BB fan...can CP3 play this year and still become a free agent? Don't the Clippers still have to sign him? Couldn't they just be renting him? DS is a cheap idiot, so I wouldn't doubt they blow this if my suspicions are correct. Please let me know if I'm wrong or right on this one.

as part of the deal with the clippers, paul had to be willing to delay his free agency by at least one year before the team was willing to make the trade, so the clips have him for at least 2 years, everyone knows donald sterling is cheap, but remember that tom benson was the cheapest owner in the nfl for years til all of a sudden he decided to open his pocketbook a little more, and now he has a superdome that sells out every sunday, and a super bowl under his belt, who knows sterling may be coming around as well

Since: Mar 29, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 12:46 am

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

Kobe is getting old, dude. To think CP3 will bring them a title without inside presence is crazy. I will say, Stern is a turd and everyone knows that. He overstepped his boundaries, and proved how jaded the NBA really is. Not an NBA fan and will take alot for me to come back. This is the same Association who let a #12 market leave, to a #38 market for some instant cash. I hope the NBA dies a slow miserable death. Reminds me of roller derby now.

Since: Jan 16, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2011 11:29 pm

Report: Rockets dispute Stern over dead CP3 deal

Can anyone tell me as I'm not a big BB fan...can CP3 play this year and still become a free agent? Don't the Clippers still have to sign him? Couldn't they just be renting him? DS is a cheap idiot, so I wouldn't doubt they blow this if my suspicions are correct. Please let me know if I'm wrong or right on this one.

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