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Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

Posted on: December 11, 2011 7:50 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2011 7:55 pm
 
Posted by Royce Young

Chris Paul might be going to Los Angeles after all. Might even be playing in Staples Center.

No, not with the Lakers, but with their roommate, the Los Angeles Clippers. According to ESPN.com, the Clips are on a short list of teams Paul would approve of being traded to Los Angeles to team up with Blake Griffin. But that's only if the Lakers or Knicks can't swing a deal for him. Which at this point, appears unlikely.

The Lakers had a three-way deal worked out to bring Paul to Los Angeles before David Stern and the NBA vetoed it for so-called "basketball reasons." Talks re-engaged, but felt apart again Saturday night when the Hornets reportedly asked for too much. A piece in the trade, Lamar Odom, was then sent to Dallas for a trade exception, essentially busting any chance a deal would go through.

The Clippers understand though that it's a risk to trade for Paul as any team that acquires him runs the risk of him not signing an extension. He likely wouldn't sign one as under the new collective bargaining agreement rules, it's better for a player to wait until his deal runs out and sign a contract in free agency.

Interesting twist to that in this case though: The Clippers aren't asking for Paul to sign an extension yet. All they want is for him to pick up the player option on his contract for 2012-13. That would postpone his free agency one more year. And if CP3 is willing to do that, the Clippers would evidently be open to deal their top two most highly prized assets in Eric Gordon and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 No. 1 pick.

That's very important stuff.

The only way anyone can really see the Clippers landing Paul would be to part with Gordon and the Wolves unprotected pick. And if the Clips were willing to part with those, it's a very real possibility that CP3 could be headed to Clipperland sometime this week.

According to the report, the Hornets have already asked the Clippers for Gordon, Chris Kaman, Eric Bledsoe, Al-Farouq Aminu and at least two future first-round picks for CP3. That's a whole lot of cheese right there. Probably a little too steep for the Clippers, in fact.

But that's more the deal the league evidently is interested in after vetoing the original deal. The original three-way trade with Houston that brought Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic and Kevin Martin to New Orleans allowed the Hornets to stay competitive. This new scenario allows them to get younger and rebuild, which apparently is the league's desire.

The Clippers deal is better in my mind, but it's a matter of if the Clips are willing to pay that kind of price just to get Paul for maybe two seasons. Teaming him with Blake Griffin is of course a very exciting prospect, but Gordon is a top 10 scorer with a ton of upside still, Minnesota's pick is maybe the most valuable asset in the league (it could very well turn into Anthony Davis), and Eric Bledsoe is a promising young point guard. That's a whole lot to pay, even for a player of CP3's caliber.

If the Hornets were able to swing this deal, I would give it up to Stern and the league, because it's undeniably better. But it's a big if at this point. Mainly because we're talking about the Clippers here and the fact that Chris Paul would have to buy into them long-term. Seems pretty iffy still to me.
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Since: Oct 24, 2009
Posted on: December 12, 2011 11:37 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

I hope the Clippers can get Paul without giving up Gordon. Bledsoe, Kaman, Aminu and a top 5 pick in the deepest draft in 10 years is more than enough for Chris Paul.
This is exactly what the league owned Hornets are going to demand for CP3!  Maybe not all of this, but anything short of a lot of this is NOT better than what the Lakers/Rockets would've offered the Hornets!!

Especially w/o Gordan and picks!!! 


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Since: Dec 12, 2011
Posted on: December 12, 2011 11:31 am
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Since: Aug 24, 2009
Posted on: December 12, 2011 4:08 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

You have to be pretty ignorant of things to think Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic is better than the Clipper deal. Eric Gordon is a 22 year old furture perennial all star that is getting better every year, he alone is better than anyone from the previous deal. Bledsoe is a solid point guard and is just 22 while Aminu is just 21, both of those guys will be starters in the league. Kaman is a past all star who is still a good center. All that plus a possible top 5 pick in what is one of the deepest drafts in years is just an insane amount to give up and is a million times better than what they wouldve got in the prior deal. The Clippers would be stupid to trade all that but theyre the Clippers so they probably will.

Meanwhile Odom is 32, Scola is 31, Martin is 28 and Dragic is the youngest at 25. The draft picks they would have gotten would have been all mid to low picks. With that you can compete for the 8th seed in the playoffs for a year and dwindle in medicority with nobody to sell jerseys or get people in the seats. That deal would have been bad for the Hornets and im glad Stern blocked it.

I hope the Clippers can get Paul without giving up Gordon. Bledsoe, Kaman, Aminu and a top 5 pick in the deepest draft in 10 years is more than enough for Chris Paul.



Since: Nov 30, 2009
Posted on: December 12, 2011 2:07 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

As a Clippers fan I'm torn. Chris Paul is amazing and I'd love to have him on the team. But I don't want to lose Eric Gordon, he is on his way to being one of the best shooting guards in the league.

Give away picks, Kaman,  and young guys like Aminu, and Bledso. But keep Griffin, Gordon, and Jordan playing together. They can grow into the next OKC. Just need to give them a chance to develope as a team.

I don't want CP3 on the team bad enough to risk breaking up a core that has so much promise.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 12, 2011 2:04 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

of course I know the league owns the Hornets.  That is the problem.  There is a conflict of interest and because the NBA owns a franchise it cannot act as authoritative overseer that governs the league.  That is the the problem.  And dont even try this get younger crap because they would have gotten young all star caliber players in Martin and Scola.  This was a power play by Stern. Period.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 1:23 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

Umm, cause nobody has ever come back from an injury, AMIRITE? He obviously passed all the tests, otherwise no team would even want to sign him. The guy has averaged over 18 PPG over his career, I'll take that as my third option all day long.
It's a pattern with him. Many players do come back from an injury, but not always multiple years of injuries. I don't think a guy who played in a little over 100 games the past 3 seasons is deserving of a 3 year deal. On the other side of it, if he plays well and his around his career avg. in points then it's a bargain deal. If the Clippers make this foolish deal though , he will have to average 30 PPG for them to be successful.





Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 12, 2011 1:11 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

Stern sure can't accuse the clippers of being a powerhouse. They literally have been rebuilding for forty years. The problem is one player will never make a differance to an orgization like that. They are always more interested in keeping their jobs than helping the organization. They hire people like themselves. so in the end you have a group of selfish people, and that filters down to the players.Lose a bunch of games, draft a star. He fits into the organization and you have years of losing. If Sterling is still the owner he fits the mold I am talking about.  



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 12:17 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

Louie answered the Butler question for me. 


So your going to rely on Ryan Gomes & Randy Foye to be your third options for scoring? 

Umm, cause nobody has ever come back from an injury, AMIRITE? He obviously passed all the tests, otherwise no team would even want to sign him. The guy has averaged over 18 PPG over his career, I'll take that as my third option all day long.




Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 12:09 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

There is no way in hell that anyone can possibly believe that Gordon, Kaman, Bledsoe and Aminu 2 future draft picks is better than Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic and draft pick.

Isnt Los Angeles still a big market city??  It is ok for Paul to be a Clipper but not a Laker.  Got it NBA..
Do you realize that the NBA owns the Hornets? They wanted to get younger, though I don't think LA should make this deal, it will give the league (again, the owner of the team) the younger players they wanted to get back.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 12:07 am
 

Clippers on Chris Paul's list?

That isn't a terrible lineup, what are you talking about? Depth? Like I said, they aren't gonna give up 4 guys for 1, the money wouldn't match up in the trade. They'll get some bench players from the Hornets. Not to mention, they'd still have Foye and Gomes.

Please tell me when Butler has ever come off the bench as a 6th man? He was the starting SF for Dallas till he got injured last year.

Go ahead and make this trade Clippers!! You will have NO depth.  Caron Butler hasn't played in 70 games since 2005-06. He hasn't played in 50 since 2008-09.  The last 2 years he's only played in 56 games combined!   


Relying on Caron Butler is a huge risk.  IF this trade is made, great.  Blake Griffin/CP3 are fantastic.  What else ya got??
Louie answered the Butler question for me. 


So your going to rely on Ryan Gomes & Randy Foye to be your third options for scoring?  


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