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Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:29 pm
Edited on: December 9, 2011 1:44 pm
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Posted by Royce Young

Everyone is pretty much freaking over the Chris Paul trade. For good reasons. It's pretty much an unprecedented move that completely blew the doors off the league and everybody covering it.

After it happened, the common thinking was it was the owners that pressured David Stern. There was the Dan Gilbert email which is just sickening, but he was really the only one anyone could connect to it. Now Mark Cuban has come clean to the Ben and Skin show in Dallas:

"The message is we went through this lockout for a reason," Cuban said Friday. "Again, I'm not speaking for Stern. He's not telling me his thought process. I'm just telling you my perspective, having gone through all this. There's a reason that we went through this lockout, and one of the reasons is to give small-market teams the ability to keep their stars and the ability to compete."

Stern claimed it was vetoed for "basketball reasons" saying that he felt the team was better served with Paul in New Orleans. Everyone knows that's pretty much bogus because owners like Cuban don't mind saying they disagreed.

"We just had a lockout, and one of the goals of the lockout was to say that small-market teams now have a chance to keep their players, and the rules were designed to give them that opportunity," Cuban said. "So to all of a sudden have a league-owned team trade their best player, particularly after having gone out and sold a ton of tickets in that market, that's not the kind of signal you want to send.

"Then, part two of that is all the rules of what you can and can't do under the new CBA weren't finalized until yesterday, so how do you really make a strategic decision until you know all the rules?"

By the sound of Cuban there, it seems like maybe this could be revisited after the league is officially up and running again. Maybe, maybe not. 

Would it be different if this were the Mavs getting Paul though? Would Cuban have a different opinion if his team were acquiring a great player like him?

"I mean, obviously, I wouldn't have been happy, but I would have understood because it was a conversation a lot of owners had long before the Laker deal was consummated," Cuban said. "It was like, 'Look, sure, I'd love him. Give him to me in a heartbeat.' But the whole idea of the lockout was to prevent stuff like that.

"Players will always have the right to choose what they want to do as a free agent, but the players agreed to rules that said, 'You know what? Let's give the home team, the incumbent team an extra advantage.' And that's how the rules were designed. I think they're going to work."

David Stern released a statement about the trade to try and explain what happened here. Trust me, it's not good enough and I'm sure this isn't the last word on the matter.

"Since the NBA purchased the New Orleans Hornets, final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the Commissioner’s Office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling.  All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets.  In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.”

Free of influence, eh? Obviously that's not true. Your owners ratted you out already Stern.
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Since: Mar 26, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 5:36 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Memo to Cuban: I like you for the most part. Now that has been said, LIVE UNDER THE DEAL YOU JUST NEGOTIATED! Good grief, if you can't get the deal that you wanted and it didn't do what you wanted, you should've negotiated a better deal. Bottom line: Elite players don't want competitive balance. They want marquee markets or the ability to compete for a championship.



Since: Dec 12, 2010
Posted on: December 9, 2011 4:19 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

I agree with Cuban. The smaller market teams will all suck and just close shop. Why bother if you can't compete. I hear all these stupid comments on here about the reasonong of nixing the trade, but the big picture is being missed. The Miami deal, Boston deal, Knicks deal, multiple Laker deals, have all made it hard for fans in smaller markets like myself to remain strong NBA fans. I am tired of hearing NBA players bitch and moan about their deal or what they are getting. They do not own the teams and if they did, their attitude would change anyway. You guys get paid enough. Want a sound retirement after you can't play any more? Get a job and earn it or hey....save your money you retard. It is too bad for some of these guys. Lebron could have been a legend, but now he will be a really amazing former player.....that all. He will never be considered a legend like Jordan, Bird, or Magic. Serves him right. Just play ball, love the game, and show loyolty to your fans you whiny little girls. Whiny Girls..........My bad......The WNBA players have more heart than any player on one of these big market teams.  



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:55 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

This is the most unbelievable piece of crap I have ever seen in Major League sport. This was a good deal for NO. The Lakers were trading proven stars, not getting him for nothing. This is NOT about protecting NO- it is about ruining NO. Paul is gone regardless. At least NO was going to get good return for him: unlike Toronto and Cleveland for Bosh and Lebron. Now No will get NOTHING for Paul.

Stern should be fired. This is too much.



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Cuban is talking out of both sides of his blog here, ain't he? Had he traded for Paul and not got him he would have been lighting up the interwebs...



Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Although the owners may have pursuaded Stern.  His statement is 100% correct. The hornets are better off with Paul and him leaving as a free agent at the end of the season.  They were basically getting players that the Lakers and Rockets decided did not fit their rebuild plan and had longer and expensive contracts.  With the trade the hornets are tied Mediocrity and expensive players while trying to sell the team.   With Paul leaving as a free agent they have cap space to build a team and create a more attractive business opportunity for another team. 

From a anti Laker point of view....it is good to see them not get another sweetheart deal.....




Since: Apr 1, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:41 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Of course Cuban opposed it. It made teams in his own conference and division better. Why would he support that? Cuban has always been the most vocal complainer in the league. He caused his team's own downfall when in the finals against Miami when Shaq and Wade played them by sending in tapes to the league office after every game. No wonder they got no calls after that. You'd think this guy would learn from his mistakes. He wants a chance to sign Paul as a free agent. He said that from the get go. He just doesn't have the assets to get him in a trade. Is it the league's fault owners like him and Gilbert have nothing on their roster anybody looking to rebuild and become relevant want? This was a very fair deal for all involved. It was a good a deal as New Orleans will get for Paul. Now, they may just get nothing in return once Paul walks after becoming a free agent. Boy, that'll sure make the franchise more valuable to a potential buyer. Yeah, right.



Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:40 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Chris Paul would not have been a good fit with the Lakers, simply because he is a player who has to have the ball and Kobe is the same kind of player. He would have to change his game to fit Kobe's game and he thinking he is the superstar the media has made him; he would not have been willing to do so.




Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 3:31 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

The press is jumping on the Commish but not giving all the details.  The issue is not this season and where Paul goes - its that fact that Houston and LA are dumping bad contracts on New Orleans to free up cap space while getting good value in return.   The league cannot allow New Orleans to be a dumping ground for other teams.  New Orleans needs to have flexibility so that they can sign free agents in the future - thats more attractive to a potential buyer than saddling the franchise with a bunch of overpaid better than average players. 



Since: Dec 9, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

Lost in all of this is that New Orleans would have benefited from this trade..4 starters or at least serviceable players and a first round draft pick...there's no way they'll get a deal this good in the future...I can imagine new orleans being better with the traded lineup than with their team is the way it is now...I like Cuban but he's full of it on this issue



Since: Feb 9, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Reactions to Chris Paul: Cuban, Stern's statement

The more I listen to David Stern and some of these owners the more i realize they simply do not understand the league they run. No matter what they are saying right now, there is nothing in the new CBA or by rejecting this trade that will keep Chris Paul in New Orleans.He would have got more money if traded and then signed an extension before the end of the year with the Lakers and so he will make less money but it will not matter. He is not staying in New Orleans, he has been clear about that, and so the Commissioner and these foolish owners just shot themselves in the foot with this veto. And the fools dont realize tha tthe new rules are actually going to make it cheaper for big franchises when they sign these stars. For example, under the new CBA, Paul can only get 4 years and around 75 Million if he leaves the Hornets. He can get 100 million and 5 years if he stays. Under no circumstances are these stars going to stay with these horribly run franchises and so in this case the Lakers or Knicks or someone will get him for 75 Million for 4 years. The fools vetoed a trade that would have given the Hornets several good players, which would have taken 2 very good big men from the Lakers, and which if Paul had signed an extension with the Lakers would have cost the Lakers 100  Million and more cap space. Trust me, these stars can make up the difference with off court endorsements in the major cities and play for a team that is well managed and has a shot to win evry year. That what Paul will do at the end of the year and the Hornets will be left with the worst roster in the league and no shot of selling the team for any decent price. These guys want to win and until some of these teams learn how to mange a franchise or sell to more qualified owners, no one will stay with these poorly run franchises when they are free agents.


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