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Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Posted on: December 1, 2011 1:47 pm
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Posted by Royce Young

There's a balance every analyst much find between saying things that get people talking but also saying things that aren't completely ridiculous. Charles Barkley is very good at this. Shaquille O'Neal, who is new at this analyst thing, is working on it. Obviously.

Exhibit A, via Sports Radio Interviews, when asked about the Rajon Rondo rumors:
“I said to myself a long time ago from sitting here watching…I saw Patrick Ewing get traded. I saw Dominique Wilkins get traded. Everyone is tradeable, you could probably get a lot for Rajon Rondo but he is the heart and soul of the team. I don’t think that would be a good idea.

If I was the general manager, I wouldn’t do it. [Hosts: You would not do it?] No. [Hosts: Even if it was for Chris Paul?] Chris Paul is not better than Rajon Rondo… Rajon Rondo is the true definition of a point guard, period. He gets everybody involved and he scores when he has to. Chris Paul scores a lot of points, but when was the last time they made it to the playoffs? Thank you very much.”
OK, let's dig in to this. First of all Shaq, Chris Paul made it to the playoffs just last season. The year before that, the Hornets didn't make it pretty much only because CP3 was hurt. And in last year's playoffs, they pushed the Lakers to six games and nearly pulled a major stunner. But I guess you missed that.

And since when is Chris Paul not in the "point guard" definition? It's like people almost inflate Rondo's point guardness because he doesn't score. It's like since he doesn't have the same well-rounded offensive ability of say a CP3 or Deron Williams and really has most his value in passing, that people assume that makes him a TRUE point guard, whatever that is. You're telling me Chris Paul isn't a true point guard because he scores too much? What planet am I on right now?

Last season, Paul averaged 15.9 points and 9.8 assists per game. Rondo averaged 10.6 points and 11.2 assists per game. For their careers, Paul is averaging 18.7 points and 9.9 assists per game. Rondo, 10.7 points, 7.6 assists. But I shouldn't even have to go there. I mean, who really would think that a) Rondo is better than Chris Paul and b) that Rondo is more of a point guard than CP3? I can't get over this.

Now Shaq played with Rondo last season so he's probably friends with him, but when you become an analyst, that stuff is out the window. You've got to tell it like it is.

Oh, hang on.
“I am just going to tell the truth. I am not going to bash anybody. I don’t like what you did in a particular game…I am gonna say it. I am not going to try to embarrass anybody, but you know just tell it like it is.”
Well nevermind. Maybe he just doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.
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Since: Sep 4, 2007
Posted on: December 5, 2011 12:59 am
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Personally I think Rondo would struggle in New orleans.  I think the Celtics would get better with CP3.  Offensively Paul is much better and a threat from the outside.  He has to be accounted for. CP3 knows how to play with anyone , more of a leader and true pg and scorer when necessary.  Rondo is definitely better defensively and key to the Celtics defensive pressure. The Celtics hide his offensive short comings by spreading the floor with Ray and Pierce. I think he is good in a system that supports his strong points. In order to solve this argument I think you would need to swap players and see what the result is. 



Since: Dec 16, 2010
Posted on: December 4, 2011 5:22 am
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

I would love to see kg, allen, pierce, cp3 out on the floor  that team would be unstoppable . Rondo doesn't even compare to cp3. He can pass better name something else he does better when they give you 10 ft jump shots throughout the playoffs and you can't make one your not on cp3's level.  You celtics fans are retarted keep Rondo and i hope cp3 comes and plays for the purple and gold. Lakers Pride!!!!!



Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: December 3, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Rondo is a better pure point guard, CP3 is more of a pure scorer who draws double teams and gets his guys open 



Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: December 2, 2011 12:11 am
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Last season, Paul averaged 15.9 points and 9.8 assists per game. Rondo averaged 10.6 points and 11.2 assists per game. For their careers, Paul is averaging 18.7 points and 9.9 assists per game. Rondo, 10.7 points, 7.6 assists. But I shouldn't even have to go there. I mean, who really would think that a) Rondo is better than Chris Paul and b) that Rondo is more of a point guard than CP3? I can't get over this.
Royce, you seem to make the classic mistake of considering only offensive statistics. Last year Chris Paul also has a PER of 23.7. That is good. Rondo was 17.1 PER. That is above average but significantly below Paul. What Rondo does is play defense. I do know that Paul gets steals. I have heard two different NBA coaches say that he gambles and hurts his team by not playing team defense. We also do not know what happens in the locker room. At least Shaq was there last year and got to observe that with Rondo. I have no idea what his basis for judging Paul might be. Over the past 5 years Boston has won 258 games (regular season) and one championship. New Orleans has won 227 with no championship. So their records are not that far apart but favor Rondo. Over the past four years that jumps significantly in favor of Rondo (discounts his 24 win rookie season.)



Since: Aug 23, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 6:03 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Im lost on that one first off Rondo doesnt have a reliable jumpshot which makes him a liability and easy to defend then put into account he plays with 3 hall of famers so I dont think it would be hard for me to get 10 asst a game and the fact that chris paul has always played with mediocre players at best and made them look like allstars (ala David West and Chandler) speaks volumes and Rondo seems to get worse every year or at least last year.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 4:22 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

Chris Paul is over rated. Plays for himself, not his team. Rondo puts it all on the line for his team and will do anything at all to win, if that includes not shooting and being a facilitator he will do that. If he needs to score, he will do that too. Paul is good, but has hit his ceiling. Rondo seems to get better every year.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:59 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

What make Rondo better is that ring. If you dont got that ring it dont mean a thing.
Worst argument ever... that would make Robert Horry the greates PF to ever play the game of basketball even though he was a reserve/role player, never the first option, when he won, what, 5 0r 6 rings?

just remember that Point guards wins Championships. I rest my case!!!!!
So Derrick Fisher of the Lakers must be the greates PG or all-time, or at least tied with Magic Johnson, since he has 5 rings right?  I mean "Point Guards wins (sic) Championships" according to you and Fisher and Magic both have 5 as the starting PG.  Clearly then, Fisher is better than Rondo despite the inferior stats in points and assists right?





Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:52 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

@takenotes -- we all know what a point guard is and does.  Keep in mind, however, that their scoring is also largely dictated by both ability and the needs of the team. Rondo plays with Pierce, Garnett and Allen among others.  Chris Paul plays with ?????????  Paul is the Hornets best offensive players and so, in addition to passing, has to carry more of a scoring burder.  No Cousey did not shoot 20 times a game but, again, look who he was playing with.  As for Magic, early on he was very definately a pass first point guard but he was playing with Abdul-Jabbar, Worthy, Scott, Cooper, Nixom, etc, etc....when those guys were gone or aging Magic did in fact start to score more and pass less.  Career Paul averages more points AND assists than Rondo -- no question Paul is the better PG.  Not saying Rondo is not a good PG, just not as good as Paul.



Since: Dec 1, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:32 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

The next time that we disect the true meaning of a Point guard, please understands what definds a point guard. A point guard is a person that looks to pass first. A point guard looks to get his team going not by getting himself going first. He is the heart and soul of that team , like a quarterback in football. Ask yourself , did majic shoot first or did Cousy shoot 20 shots a game? Thats why in todays game a true point guard is hard to find because most players are taught to score first. It like a Center in basketball , he has to control the paint. Now the Center shoots 15 - 20 footers. We all say that its easy to lead a team with hall of famers, But remember what got these some day hall of famers to where they are now. It takes a skilled guard to get Ray the ball at the exact time and the exact shooting position. It take a skilled guard to get Pierce the ball when he needs it on the elbow at the exact time. It takes a skilled guard to deliver Garnett the ball at the exact time for the 15 footer. So when we talk about any point guard can run the Celtics , just remember will that guard be skillfull enought to not shoot when these hall of famers are open? It takes skill to do that without damaging your own igo. 



Since: Dec 1, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:17 pm
 

Shaq: Rondo is better than Chris Paul

I think it is a bit of a strecth to say CP3 is inferior to Rondo. With that being said, I think Shaq is correct in that Rondo is a better fit for the Celtics. Though he didnt come out and say that. Rondo is more a true point guard in that he gets the Big 3 involved more and plays off them better than CP3 would. Also, Rondo is a MAJOR part of the defensive systems and schemes they run. He has the ability to defend PG, SG and LeBron. CP3 couldn't them that much flexiblilty from that position. Everyone knows CP3 is a far superior shooter than Rondo. But CP3 can not disrupt or have a great impactg on the game like Rondo can. Points, rebounds, assist, steals and just ball-hawking defense.


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