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Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Posted on: November 29, 2011 1:11 am
Edited on: November 29, 2011 2:43 pm
 
Posted by Ben Golliverchris-paul-carmelo-anthony

That didn't take long.

Less than a week after NBA owners and players tentatively agreed to terms on a new Collective Bargaining Agreement that was designed by the league to improve competitive balance, a report has surfaced that a small-market perennial All-Star wants to play for a star-studded, marquee big-market franchise.

ESPN.com reports that New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul is intent on signing with the New York Knicks.
Paul’s first choice by far is to team up with the Knicks’ Anthony and Amare Stoudemire to form yet another Eastern Conference Big 3, according to sources close to the situation.

The Knicks should have enough room beneath the salary cap next summer to offer Paul, who can become a free agent after this season, a contract starting around $13.5 million, just below the maximum. And while New Orleans could offer him more money, Paul, like his buddies James and Wade did a year ago, will gladly take a little less to join the team of his choice. 

Paul’s current team, the poor, league-owned New Orleans Hornets, will of course do everything they can to avoid losing Paul for nothing. That means trying to trade him before or during this truncated 66-game season, according to sources.
Paul and the Knicks have been linked before. Last month, a report surfaced that Anthony wanted Paul in New York. In September, a report surfaced that former Knicks GM Isiah Thomas is close with Paul and was "working behind the scenes" to convince Paul to sign with the Knicks.

While this is not the first report of mutual interest between Paul and the Knicks, it's certainly the most detail-laden. The Knicks have obviously planned to make a big splash in the summer of 2012 by stocking up on contracts that expire this season. They can make a compelling financial case, even if it's not the best possible offer available to Paul. 

As with Anthony, if Paul's heart is set on New York he certainly has the leverage to get there. It's just a matter of when and how. Whether Paul gets there quickly via a direct trade, slowly by waiting to sign with the Knicks in the summer, or by taking a circuitous path, like the one traveled by New Jersey Nets point guard Deron Williams, who was traded without warning by the Utah Jazz and recently said he's keeping his options open for this summer, remains to be seen. But if Paul has the will expressed in this report, there's a way for him to land in New York.

The question, as CBSSports.com Ken Berger points on in the following video, is how much of a financial hit joining the Knicks would mean for Paul and whether that hit becomes so large as to be prohibitive. Would losing out, potentially, on tens of millions of dollars still make the move worth it?

"I'm sure Chris Paul and the Knicks are first on each other's lists, but although extend-and-trades and sign-and-trades are still allowed in this agreement, there are a lot of restrictions," Berger explains. "You can't necessarily do what Carmelo did in the extend-and-trade to get to the team you want and still get max money. Chris Paul could only get one year added to his two left. And with sign-and-trades, you can't do what LeBron did to get to Miami and get max money, you have to take a 4-year deal and less than max raises."



The Knicks have staggered their superstar acquisitions more than the Miami Heat did in landing LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh during the summer of 2010, but they're following essentially the same blueprint and strategy. Even though Paul's biggest salary payday would come by staying with the Hornets, we've learned it's not always about maximum NBA salary for elite basketball players. Paul, like Anthony, is a featured Jordan Brand sponsored athlete and would surely have access to new, additional off-court revenue streams playing for a championship-contending Knicks squad. But could that make up tens of millions of dollars in salary difference?

This report didn't take long to surface, but it will feel like forever until the script plays out, especially for Hornets fans.
Comments

Since: Dec 1, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 11:43 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

The problem with the Knicks is the trade for Melo...that was a huge mistake. The team was better before he joined the team and if he really wanted to be a knick and win championships why did he force the Knicks to make that move and give up all its young talent. I think Paul would be a great knick but Melo kills the team... No D and hitting 8 out of 20 shots a night please he will never win a championship in the NBA as the #1 player maybe when he is a #2 or #3 yes but not now.



Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2011 3:25 am
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

The Knicks are in prime position to do something that hasn't been done since the 70's, which is to have multiple stars on their ball club and go all the way! For people saying that the Knicks even with Paul, Melo, And Amare with a defending center in place will still be runner ups to clubs like ATL, BOS(which is getting older and slower), and even CHI for that matter is an utter joke! Case being this past years playoffs between the Celts and Knicks NY brought it to the C's but injuries took their tolls on the players and there just wasn't enough support for Melo and Douglas once Billups and Amare were done but 66 games should be more than enough to get the Garden rocking and popping!!!

Billups
SG/open
Melo
Amare
Center/open: Kwame Brown on the cheap will do just fine.    
  

For some reason their are several teams with a real advantage to snatch Chris Paul away this season, like the Lakers, can't see Paul going to Boston with an aging cast of players, and now even talk of Paul going back to OKC to team up with K. Durant. 



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 10:35 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

warningfrakpowr - you have to be kidding. What do you think the NBA has been about all these years. How many championships lately have the Lakers and Celtics got by basically buying big talent? The Heat came close. The Bulls are probably looking to add that one more big star so they will be right there. Three fourths of the entire league is purely canon fodder. After a few years, I suspect Kevin Love will leave Minnesota. Durant will probably end up in San Antone, Boston or Los Angeles. And the Merry Go Round goes round and round.



Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: November 29, 2011 10:30 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Even if the Knicks get CP3 they will not overtake the Heat or Bulls.  The primary reason is that the Knicks were not designed and do not play defensel and they don't rebound.  Defense and rebounding wins championships, not offense. The Heat can play good team defense and the Bulls play outstanding defense.  Both the Heat and Bulls have a stable core of players.  The Knicks are a hodge podge team.  Amare and Melo do not play defense, they score.  CP3 can play defense but, in my opinion, has bad knees and will never play at the level that gave him his reputation.  Amare would be the best rebounder but he's not an every day rebounder.  He can rebound, but doesn't provide a dominant defensive or rebounding presence in the post.  You also have to consider that the Knicks will have a hard time getting home court in the playoffs because all three of their Big 3 are injured and take off more games during the regular season than the Heat or Bulls core players.  Amare is 2 years since micro fracture surgery and it appears has recovered well.  CP3 has played 80 games last year at a mediocre level, but over his career has never played 82 and usually has at least 1 stint on the injured list. Same with Melo.  He usually plays about 65-70 games a season.  So if the Knicks will be short handed for 10-15 games a year they will have to win a higher percentage when they are at full strength.  In their division and conference and considering they don't play defense or rebound it will be difficult for them to position themselves for home court throughout the playoffs.  If they don't get home court they don't win a championship.  Period!!



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:50 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

longtimefan, I do agree that the Heat and Bulls are better even with Paul, but the Celtics looked bad in the second half last year and they are old and getting older very fast.  Garnett has very little left in the tank and Big Baby will probably go somewhere else since he will get paid and does not want to sit behind KG anymore.  I don't think he wants to be a bench player anymore.  Ray Allen either has it or he does not.  He showed in the playoffs that his best days are well behind him, and even Pierce has lost a step or two.  Not saying the Knicks are better even with Paul, but there will at least be a close race in the division.  Boston may take the division, but it will not be a runaway because this team is getting old fast and another year with these three at this stage makes a big difference.  If the Knicks add a center, it should be really interesting.



Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:12 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Ifs and buts... let's wait and see.  Personally, as a Knick fan I hope they get either him or Dwight Howard next year.  Either one, and they are instant contenders.  Especially if Phil Jackson takes over.  NY is looking good... we even get a season (albeit a shortened one) to tool up what we have in place before we try and land another big name.



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 5:56 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

This is the kind of crap that makes me wish they were still locked out........The Knicks orginization isn't smart enough to build a team to contend so now they will turn to buying up other teams stars because that always produces a Championship?....(see the Miami Heat for how that worked out). Between College Bowl games and March madness I don't think I'll have to watch any of this crap this year....



Since: Mar 5, 2010
Posted on: November 29, 2011 4:51 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Amare and Chauncey aren't making the Knicks better than the Bulls, Heat, or Celtics. They may not even be as good as the Magic or Hawks either.



Since: Oct 1, 2010
Posted on: November 29, 2011 4:49 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Amare and chancey were hurt.  The Knicks will be able to play them this year genius



Since: Mar 5, 2010
Posted on: November 29, 2011 4:43 pm
 

Cap rules make Chris Paul to Knicks difficult

Let's also not get away from the fact that all of this with the Knicks still depends on the notion that CP3 will be willing to join the Knicks while leaving $8 million per season and $40 million through 5 seasons on the table in potential salary in order to join the Knicks. And while being the best player on the team, he'd have 2 colleagues that make salaries that dwarf his and 9 very cheap teammates that would either be scrubs or good role players that are willing to make the same sacrifice to join the Knicks over teams that are established championship contenders like the Lakers, Bulls, Heat, Mavericks, Celtics, etc. who will also be looking for the same bargain role players.

I will say it again. He would really want to join the Knicks if he did that.


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