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Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Posted on: November 13, 2011 10:14 am
Posted by Royce Young

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Michael Jordan has always been every players' hero. But right now, he's every players' enemy. He's the bad guy. He's the owner that's reportedly pushing hardline to a new level and trying to crush the players in every way possible.

Players that have revered him for years are now turning their backs on him. Why? Because Jordan once toed the line for the union famously standing up to Washington owner Abe Pollin during the 1998 negotiations.

And now Jordan's throwing that owner-speak back at the players. Which is why many have spoken out against His Airness. Stephon Marbury went so far as to call M.J. a "sellout." The latest to do it? Metta World Peace. Via

"We're the same guys that looked up to Michael Jordan when we were kids," he said. "Same guys that wanted to fly like Mike and be like Mike. Even though guys are with different companies, they still love Mike. Love his sneakers and everything. Guys just felt like he didn't support us when we most needed him. He's an owner now, so I guess he's just on the other side."

Artest, who often says wild, nonsensical things, really broke down this Jordan thing better than any player has. It was honest, and true. Jordan has meant everything to so many current players and for him to now toe the line with the owners is really hurtful. They feel like he's betrayed them. It's understandable why Jordan has done it though, like Artest said. He's an owner now so he's going to do owner things.

Some players have called M.J. a hypocrite, but the truth is, he's just an owner. I don't know what's worse right now though.

Since: Oct 8, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 7:55 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

If recall correctly in is Hall of Fame induction speech Jordan he said that "players have to perform, they have to go out there and play and owners have to pay them".

In this collective bargaining agreement the owners are trying to guarantee a (huge) profit for all the teams regardless the quality of their management. Under the excuse of the pursuit of a system that allows that any team owners are trying to rip the players off their fair chair off the profit that players generate.

The NBA is a business that generates a bunch of dollars but besides Michael Jordan I wouldn’ recognize any of the owners. I pay to see Kobe Bryant, Derrick Rose, Dwayne Wade and all the others play, I wouldn’t pay a dime to see Michael Jordan manage his team or to see David Stern at his job. The NBA is selling basketball and I don’t see how they can do it without the players. So they probably should be treating them as partners and not as unqualified employees.

If some owners don’t get it Jordan should enlighten them about the issue because he was a player and the face of the game for many years and he didn’t do it for free.

Has he said players perform, owners pay, and if players don’t play owners don’t win a dime.

The good news for them is that they also don’t have to pay David Stern his salary…

Since: Jul 21, 2010
Posted on: November 15, 2011 1:50 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Artest and Marbury?? Does anyone care what these two think about anyone?? Well, I guess I did click on the link. I hate myself right now. Those two just wasted precious minutes of my day!<br />

Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:15 am

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

@balrog01 you took a small peice out of my post and spun it.  I agree that the point of any business is to make a profit and the owners are within their rights to try to make that ptofit.  What I'm saying is that its not guaranteed.  If you have bad management(as is the case with a lot of teams in the NBA) then you should not be saved from yourself!  I believe its greedy for the owners to be GUARANTEED a profit!  Your saying you agree that teams like the T-Wolves and Hawks should profit regardless of if they draft 14 point guards and small forwards in a row or pay a third tier superstar, at best, max money?  I agree the current business model needs to be adjusted.  The problem with adjusting it, in my opinion, is that your allowing the individuals who made those same poor decisions in drafting, free agency and trading to run the negotiations. 

As far as why I feel the players arent being greedy, they have given back 7% of BRI yearly, which equates to more than the league lost last year and right now they are simply fighting to decide what a reasonable paycut is.  Its not greed when someone signs you and agrees to pay you a certain amount, you agree to drop that amount that they agreed to pay you, they want you to drop more and you say no.  THEY ARE WILLINGLY TAKING PAYCUTS! They are just trying to determine what a reasonable paycut should be.  Its not like they are fighting for more money!  How do you categorize a willing paycut as greed?

Certain teams have simply ran their business into the ground and while certain ownership situations I do understand, a majority of them I dont.  Clippers(every decision that wasnt drafting Griffin or Gordan), T Wolves(really Darko, 15 small forwards and 37 point guards!!), Hawks(Joe Johnson), Washington(Arenas), Bobcats(pretty much any decision made since Jordan took over) and certain other teams should have their feet held to the fire and live up to what they have put themselves in.  Teams like the Hornets, Pacers, Jazz, Nets and blazers who have  smart management and have just had bad luck are a different situation.  I agree the model is broken but it isnt only the players who broke the system.  Its the owners who overinflated their value as well as David Stern who markets players over teams.   

Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 6:43 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Between Marbury and Artest, they have about half a brain combined.

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 6:16 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

MJ was the league, they all got their big payday because of him not in spite of him.  MJ was smart enough to know that the NBA was his platform, for bigger and better things, these guys aren't that smart.  Without the NBA who are they? Who is Ron Artest without the NBA? Who is Starbury without the NBA?  They are shooting themselves in the foot.

Artest and Marbury criticizing MJ is a joke, neither one of them is qualified to carry MJ's bag, much less criticize him and his motives. (Same as theirs to make a buck)

Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Isnt this the sameguy who attacked his coach and went in to the stands after fans

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:29 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Where is it written that any business has to make a profit?  I understand thats the goal but nowhere is it stated that anyone anywhere should be guaranteed anything!  If the owners are saying they want to be guaranteed a profit that, in the truest since of the word, makes them GREEDY!  You cant expect a profit if you run your business into the ground, it just cant be done!
Nobody said you are guaranteed a profit.  But, "that's the goal".  So, if you're losing money, there are only two ways to reach that goal (1) increase revenue and/or (2) decrease expenses.  The biggest expense the owners have is player payroll (last year it was equal to  at least 57% of revenue ) so now that the CBA is expired you renegotiate that expense, which they did to a place at 50% where, based on last year's numbers the owners would break even...not be guaranteed a profit.  If, for example, revenues should happen to decline as well, the owners would still lose money.  The owners, yes-partly through their own fault, have operated for a number of years losing money overall.  They could do little to fix that because of the guarantees to the players in the old CBA.  Now that its time for a new CBA they can address it and they would have been stupid not to do so.

Why do you think its "greedy" for the owners to want to make money but its not "greedy" for the players to want to make as much money as they can?  Why its not greedy for the players not to accept a deal that might lower the average wage from about $5.4 million to around $5million per year, guaranteed money, no matter how bad you play? 

You are right, you can't expect a proft if you run your business into the ground, and that is exactly what the owners are trying to avoid.  They are changing business practices, getting smarter, fixing past mistakes, to avoid "running their businesses into the ground.  That is not greedy, that is smart.

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 3:54 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

MJ didn't give a crap about the other players in the league when he played, so why should he start now as an owner?  The guy is simply doing what he thinks is right for his business.  It seems to be an iditoic decision, but it is his to make since he is the owner.

And who cares what Artest, or Metta, or whatever gimmic name he has, thinks about this?  The guy is hanging around collecting check and playing badly.  

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:28 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Wah...poor babies. Grow up, Artest. MJ is an owner now. He naturally has different priorities. So tragic, LOL. It's likely that Jordan sees this whole debacle clearer than most of the current players, since he has been on both sides of the issue(s). 

Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:09 pm

Ron Artest says Michael Jordan betrayed players

Also, for years Jordan was the most underpaid athlete in sports and in today's NBA, you have complete rummies who make 3-4 times what Jordan made
Really? For the last couple of seasons that he played, Michael Jordan signed a one year deal worth $30,140,000 and another one year deal worth $33,140,000. He made around $4,000,000 the year before the huge hike, so I guess the hypocrite MJ had a huge hand in astronomically raising the salaries considering he got a 1000% pay raise.  I'll tell you, $63,280,000 over 2 seasons is a pretty nice pay day. I don't see players today making that.

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