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Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

Posted on: November 13, 2011 2:20 am
Edited on: November 13, 2011 2:28 am
 
Posted by Ben Gollivernba-lockout

Representative democracy has arrived to the NBA lockout. Sort of.

National Basketball Players Association executive director Billy Hunter told SI.com on Saturday that the NBPA's player representatives will vote on a modified version of the NBA's most recent proposal to the players during a meeting scheduled for Monday morning.
When reached on Saturday night, however, Hunter told SI.com that his intention was to have the player representatives vote on a revised version of the NBA's latest proposal before moving forward.

"We will vote on the NBA's proposal," Hunter wrote in a text message. "The proposal will be presented with some proposed amendments."

When the most recent negotiating session broke on Thursday night, NBPA president Derek Fisher said the proposal made by the NBA did not sufficiently address the NBPA's desires on system issues.

"We have a revised proposal from the NBA," Fisher said. "It does not meet us entirely on the system issues that we felt were extremely important to close this deal out."

The plan here, it seems, is to work in the desired system changes, secure enough votes to ensure that the players as a whole are reasonably happy, and then present the modified version of the league's offer back to the league for further negotiations and/or their approval.

(There's also the possibility that the proposal -- even an amended version -- is voted down. In that case, the process is stalled at the same place it is right now.)

It's a plan born of desperation. The NBPA realizes that if the players reject the NBA's current proposal outright the NBA is prepared to revert to a significantly worse proposal that they have said publicly will include a 47 percent revenue split and a flex camp system. But, if the players vote to accept the NBA's current proposal they will, well, be stuck with what Hunter admitted on Thursday was not a favorable deal. 

"It's not the greatest proposal in the world," Hunter said. "But I owe that, I have an obligation to at least present it to membership."

Based on recent public statements from both sides, it's likely the players will focus their amendment efforts, at least in part, on system issues that they believe will allow for freer player movement. Those line-item issues could include the luxury tax structure and penalty system as well as the mid-level exception.

NBA deputy commissioner Adam Silver specifically singled out the player movement issue as a point of "philosophical difference" between the owners and players. The owners believe a rigid luxury tax system and a restricted mid-level exception for luxury tax payers will increase competitive balance in the league, while the players believe that those changes would unnecessarily tie players to franchises and thereby limit their free agency options.

So how will this new plan of the union's br received? That will depend on the quantity and scope of their proposed amendments, of course. But NBA commissioner David Stern said in a Friday night interview that the league's most recent offer is effectively a final one.

"The owners have moved to wherever they are going to move to," Stern said. 

Still, if faced with the possibility of hitting a home run the revenue split by reducing the players' share from 57 percent to 50 percent, winning numerous, major concessions on system issues, entirely avoiding any potential court battles or union decertification, enjoying a 72-game schedule that starts in a little more than a month and getting the league back on track, Stern and the owners likely have a measure of motivation to make some final, minor concessions to close out this seemingly endless labor battle.

That would be logical. But logic, as we've learned recently, has no place here.
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Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:20 am
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

the players believe that those changes would unnecessarily tie players to franchises and thereby limit their free agency options
So....that means that players like Carmelo Anthony would have to honor the contracts they sign ? Players (and their salaries)  would have to fit into a franchises long term plans as a condition of their tens of millions of dollars of investment in a player ?

It's a tough life being responsible, huh ? 



Since: Feb 1, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 9:43 am
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

The funny thing is, I don't think small markets even care about these latest revisions. I was watching a Washington/Boston game, and was shocked to hear the crowd go wild on a Ray Allen 3 IN WASHINGTON!! The small markets have compensated for having crappy teams by cheering for others.

Fixing the NBA is a process. The owners are hoping that by restricting player movement, all teams will be able to compete. Competitive teams will draw more fans, which will enhance both sides of the BRI, which the players should understand. I think most fans are on the side of the owners. The players have too much control. With the league dictating how much a "max contract" is, why not go to a contender when everyone is paying the same?



Since: Feb 1, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 9:35 am
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

This is a smart move by the players to vote on an "amended" proposal. As long as there are only MINOR tweaks, it would help in an anti-trust suit after decertification (which they will lose regardless). It represents the players showing "good faith efforts" towards reaching a deal by accepting the owner's proposal but with minor suggestions that if agreed to, would start a season.

My only question is, how much money do big market teams make anyways? Can some of them afford to pay the luxury tax? Portland's owner is a multi-billionaire and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind paying $100M in luxury taxes for a championship.



Since: Nov 17, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 12:53 am
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

It's time to seal the deal, and get back to work.



Since: Oct 15, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 12:03 am
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

[yawn]



Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2011 10:54 pm
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

Still, if faced with the possibility of hitting a home run the revenue split by reducing the players' share from 57 percent to 50 percent, winning numerous, major concessions on system issues, entirely avoiding any potential court battles or union decertification, enjoying a 72-game schedule that starts in a little more than a month and getting the league back on track, Stern and the owners likely have a measure of motivation to make some final, minor concessions to close out this seemingly endless labor battle.
According to CBSSports.com reports at least 11 owners believe this 50-50 deal is not only not a home run but a bunt sacrifice. The owners lost $300 million per year. 50-50 split give them back $266 million so they still lose money on a $10.8 billion investment. That is not good business. Will the league be able to get those owners and 6-8 on the fence to consider any more changes? Will Stern even take them any more changes? These concessions that you call minor are concessions every fan from a small market should consider critical. Players say they want to make $5 million per year average and they want to be employed in a city of their own choosing. The mid-level is not going to be used for stars but role players. They make $5M but want to choose? Wouldn't we all!



Since: Mar 14, 2011
Posted on: November 13, 2011 10:23 pm
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

And it seems like you cant spell.



Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: November 13, 2011 8:55 pm
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

It hasnt been clearly explained what in the deal, or why the players are so concerned about player movement.  Are the owners proposing the end of free agency?


JimmyGusto
Since: Oct 10, 2011
Posted on: November 13, 2011 5:07 pm
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Since: Dec 23, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2011 4:40 pm
 

Report: Hunter says player reps to vote Monday

Time for the agents and union leaders to let the players decide... but this is rule by threat anyways....the players look bad in all this... unorganized and no goals....they got their lunch handed to them.. time to sign and get new leadership in 6 or so years..


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