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NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:49 pm
Edited on: November 4, 2011 2:58 am
By Matt Moore nba-lockout

Update 2:49 a.m.: Two separate lists of players involved in the calls came out late Thursday night. Yahoo! Sports reported Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Jason Kidd, Al Horford, and Tyson Chandler, while ESPN reported Dwyane Wade, Paul Pierce, along with Ray Allen and Dwight Howard. That makes leaders from six different teams, including six current or future All-Stars. Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett have not been formally connected to the talks, but considering Pierce's involvement, it could be assumed they were in support of the movement. That's a lot of players with a lot of pull.

We're in dark waters, here, kids. 

Yahoo Sports and the New York Times are reporting that 50 members of the National Basketball Players Association held two separate conference calls this week with an antitrust attorneys to discuss decertification and subsequent lawsuits... without the knowledge of NBPA executive board members. 

So, that's fun.

Yahoo reports that meetings were spurred by players, including multiple All-Stars, who refuse to go below the 52 percent of Basketball-Related Income already offered in negotiations with the NBA. These players reportedly feel too many concessions have been made. This directly contrasts multiple reports and statements from other players indicating that a 51 or 50 percent compromise would be considered reasonable in pursuit of a deal. This new set of reports indicates that not only is the union divided, it is divided bitterly.

A move to decertify is thought to equate to the end of Billy Hunter's tenure as executive director of the NBPA. It would also kickstart a scorched earth policy by taking the sport to the courts, one that could take literally years to resolve. The union would require 30 percent of its membership to sign a petition to raise a vote for decertification, then a simple majority of its membership to formally approve it. In other words, the 50-player contingent would need to bring on over roughly 150 additional players in order to reach that threshold. 

The reports come from multiple sources within 48 hours of a scheduled meeting on Saturday between the NBA and NBPA, which raises suspicions of the intent of the purposeful leak. The question is why and to what end. 

After talks broke down a week ago, it was predicted that things would get uglier.

They certanly have.

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: November 5, 2011 8:20 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

Lets make this real simple. ALL contracts from now on will have the same base salary and then be loaded with incentives. That way the egos that say they are worth the big bucks will be earning it and the flops and busts arnt guarenteed anything unless they play and perform. To many huge deals are done without anything being proved or signed and the guy stinks after. If these guys are as good as they think they are they will have no issue with this and with the right deal could maybe even make more than they were before, this will also increase effort. Most of the players are bums and take nights off or fake injuries or fail to return from an injury in a timely fashion well this will hurt there pockets and ensure that they are in shape and wanting to go out their and perform to their max. The owners wont be stuck eating contracts for guys that dont pan out and I think this will increase the competition level for all teams. These stars talk a good game well they will have to walk the walk too.

Since: Nov 4, 2011
Posted on: November 5, 2011 2:24 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

Couldn't have said it any better, if you don't like what you're watching, change the channel, people like myself just keep hoping a CBA can be worked out.

Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: November 5, 2011 11:00 am

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

The NBA is a joke.  Football will be ending and then we'll have pitchers and catchers reporting in the spring.  Who cares about the NBA?  Biggest joke of a sport.  They can't even bother to enforce basic rules like traveling and 3 second violations.  Hell, they don't even play basketball until the playoffs. 

Since: Apr 14, 2009
Posted on: November 5, 2011 1:58 am

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

There's multiple articles with multiple posts where people say "who cares about the NBA, cancel it" and that "college hoops are way better".  These college players are playing their mind and bodies out to get to the NBA. So, no more NBA, no more enthusiasm that everybody loves. College hoops could probably be cancelled coz these schools will think they are grooming students to them take their talents to another country therefore not doing anything for their country's economy.

PS - don't care about NBA? Get a life and stop reading the articles! And commenting for that matter.

Since: Sep 26, 2011
Posted on: November 4, 2011 9:08 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

Just get the NCAA basketball season started and call it a season for these over paid egotistical jerks. Bring on Sully and the Buckeyes and watch men play the game w/ enthusiasm and who actually get burns on their knees after diving for a ball. Only thing these guys will dive for anymore are the white woman. Wheres all the white woman be???

Since: Dec 9, 2006
Posted on: November 4, 2011 7:22 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

Amazing how stupid and ignorant grownups can be when fighting over the hard earned money of NBA fans..

I have a solution for the players and owners as a business owner myself...

1) Owners go ahead and give the players 52%...

2) Players no longer have guaranteed contracts and have signing bonuses like the NFL.

Players get the money up front for producing and the owners then get to cut the waste of flesh the moment he stops trying to be productive on the floor. Ex: Dampier, LaFrentz, Mashburn, etc....

Lets cut to the chase and remind the almighty players, that the money stops coming if they do not play. I for one, won't tolerate some millionaire handing out raman noodles on Halloween to kids just to be a names included Tony Allen...

Get your collective heads out of your ass or go to Europe and play in oblivion..

I have seen my last NBA game....

Nuff said.... 

Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: November 4, 2011 6:15 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

If they decertify every player now has the right to sue the owners for locking them out. It is illegal to lock out your workers when you hold a antitrust exemption. These are federal antitrust rules. Now if this happens the owners will be up s--- Creek. 500 lawsuits from 500 different attorneys thought you were losing money before wait until they decertify. What the owners may do is just open the doors and cancel the lock out or keep negotiating. I thought it would be done by now but it looks like to me there will be no season this year. 

Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: November 4, 2011 5:23 pm

Yes, decertify

Please all of you decertify and then go to Europe to play hoops where you'll discover the same as Deron Williams. You don't get to run through everybody because you're "special", you only get two steps for a lay-up, there is a "key" under the basket and you only get three consecutive seconds in it without penalty, and real people care more about their neighbors than they do about which Hollywood slut you married this week and divorced the next. Now, please procede to your ballot box and cast your vote.

Since: Jan 7, 2008
Posted on: November 4, 2011 4:10 pm

NBPA members meet with decertification attorneys

I wish the league would go under for all I care. The season is too long and half the players take a game off when their teams are  losing.  College games are far more exciting than pro games.  They seem to care about the name on their jerseys, unlike LBJ.

Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: November 4, 2011 3:38 pm

Biggest winner if there's Decertification ...

is the NHL - they've always had an interesting product but made the bad decision (at the time) to have their games shown on OLN in 2005, however, as OLN turned into Verses which will become NBC Sports Network in 2012 and is available in many more homes, more people will get their sports fix with the NHL.

ESPN will also be a winner as the viewship in College Basketball will increase.

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