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NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

Posted on: October 21, 2011 9:49 am
Edited on: October 21, 2011 1:36 pm
By Matt Moore

We've only lost the first two weeks, technically. There will certainly be more cancelations Monday, but if we're going in two week increments, there's still some time between now and losing games in December. But the NBA sure seems to be pretty comfortable with losing games in December, since they're already telling arenas they can book dates on game nights. Yeah. 

From the Orange County Register:
The Lakers’ still-scheduled Dec. 13 home game against the Toronto Raptors will not happen under any circumstances then and there.

That’s because the NBA has already allowed Staples Center to vacate its commitment to the Lakers that day and schedule an extra date of the Jay-Z and Kanye West concert tour.

According to a statement from the NBA: “With the cancellation of the first two weeks of the season, the NBA schedule would have to be reworked and certain dates — including Dec. 13 for a Lakers game at Staples Center — would not be part of any revised schedule.”

Actually, it’s two additional NBA games already on the move, because the league did the same thing to accommodate another Jay-Z and Kanye show at Chicago’s United Center on Nov. 30, when the Bulls are currently scheduled to play the San Antonio Spurs.
via Dec. 13 Lakers-Raptors game already off schedule - Lakers blog : The Orange County Register.

So their plan for a revised NBA schedule to account for the games missed in the first two weeks of November... includes missing more games in December?


It's plausible, absolutely. They're going to rework the entire schedule, they allegedly already have plans in place. So sure, they can just be reworking all of the dates, including moving a few around, and found room to shove things out of the way so people can Watch the Throne. But the perception to the common fan will be that the league is already preparing to lose those games outright. One thing to keep in mind, any plan to reschedule the season, whatever the number of games, would probably include measures to move all the games around. In essence, everything would be liquid in such an instance. 

For a professional basketball league, the NBA seems awfully at ease with losing the "B" part of their name. Scheduling meetings with union leadership? That seems haphazard and spur-of-the-moment. But canceling games? That feels like something they've been planning on for a very long time.  They seem better at getting rid of basketball than working to bring it back. All part of the process.


Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: October 23, 2011 1:25 pm

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

You're right, they do not owe that to anyone. But they better not expect in any way for the players to trust them. They claim they lost money, yet at the same time refuse to release any financial info.  What other business in the world would deal with a corporation who makes a bold claim but then refuses to release any info to back it up? Not saying they are lying, but would you trust your boss if he told you that line of b.s.?  Didn't think so. If they are indeed losing money, then prove it.

Since: May 15, 2009
Posted on: October 23, 2011 11:53 am

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

First of all, why does anyone think the league would fold....there is just too much money involved for ALL parties to allow it to happen.  Remember the NFL lockout just around the corner......same story.  The fact is we all know others are always salivating for a chance to play in the NBA worldwide, but neither party would want that to happen.  Personally, the owners could bring in other players and keep the league going (at a diluted talent overall) but remember if that happened, I would personally start up another league, and employ the players to compete the the new NBA.  Guess what, my league would draw more crowds.

My point is that this sort of stuff happens every time, they bitch, bully each other, threaten each other, but the reality is they ALL need each other.....translation.....the fans are without a league for a while.......maybe spend more time with your wives and kids...........or play some basketball yourself, or watch more NFL and NHL :)

The NBA will be back, and ready for our money! Guaranteed!


Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 23, 2011 1:33 am

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

Except the employees are their business. Stop comparing Entertainment business with other businesses

THE employees are their business, not THESE particular employees, that's what you player supporters fail to understand.  If THESE NBA players were their business the owners would still need to be profitable but hey, I'd say they better take what they can get because their business depends on THESE players.  

BUT... that's not the case.  The fans, advertisers and sponsors that are responsible for the almost 4 billion dollar BRI have been there for decades and will be there in almost all cases after the current players disappear.  There are THOUSANDS of talented kids and young men that play basketball all over the world salivating at the chance to make an unbelievable living doing it.   Don't tell me the current players aren't replaceable either, because these guys didn't come from anywhere special.  They came from U.S colleges and U.S highschools and from schools and leagues overseas that will only get stronger as time goes on and will always produce enough players to feed the NBA. Furthermore unlike other sports the NBA only needs to fill about 400 spots per season on their rosters, making it all that much easier to do without THESE players.  And if you take it one step further, there aren't more then about 7 players per game in the NBA worth a dime which means there are barely a couple hundred players fans even care about at all...... 

Before you or any other player supporter responds with "you can't replace them all at once", I say spare me that stupid argument.  For one, you sure could replace them all at once and second of all, you would never need to replace them all at once.  If the owners ever held their grounds and the courts did nothing for the players, you'd see 80-90 percent of today's NBA players BEGGING for a chance to play for less money.

Finally, remember something here.  There is no league in North America these guys could play in nearly as profitable as the NBA is today. And for 99 percent of them, there is no league anywhere on the planet they could make the money they are being offered today by the owners.  The players are not capable of forming their own league and never will be..... some can hardly balance their own checkbook or read a children's book without difficulty understanding what they're reading let alone invest in and run their own league.

The owners are billionaires with or without the players.... the players are for the most part NOTHING without the NBA.....

Advantage?  Owners... 

Since: May 2, 2010
Posted on: October 23, 2011 12:40 am

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

The owners don't owe it to anyone to be transparent about their books. Who gets the idea that these owners owe anyone this?? The company belongs to them. It's THEIR business.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: October 22, 2011 11:12 pm

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

Am I the only one who could care less if there is an NBA? I am rooting for the entire league to fold like a napkin.

Since: Apr 18, 2011
Posted on: October 22, 2011 8:20 pm

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

Except the employees are their business. Stop comparing Entertainment business with other businesses

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 22, 2011 3:34 pm

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

 If the federal government can get involved in other issues regarding sports...and they also have the power to audit someones taxes...why not put 2 and 2 together and say you know what, your league is going to be run under certain circumstances.  You are providing our country entertainment and you are very much allowed to make a profit, however it has to be publicized how much profit you are making.

First of all, there was an audit done and the UNION AGREES the NBA didn't profit last season or the year before that or the year before that. The only question is how much did the owners lose, and there isn't even much of a question there because when is the last time you heard Hunter or anybody else in the NBA's union accuse the owners of lying or saying the owners aren't losing money?  Nobody is saying that...

Second of all, there is NO WAY IN HELL the government can force NBA owners to show anybody anything.  Yeah, the government can get involved in steroid issues and other illegal things that don't help a country but demanding business owners show them their books?  No chance.... these franchises aren't publicly traded companies, the government has no authority of what they do financially.  And you as a fan have no right whatsoever to see an owner's books which would be exactly what would happen if you had your way.....  you have a right to buy NBA tickets or not buy NBA tickets.  You have a right to watch a game on tv or not watch a game on tv and you have a right to buy or not buy NBA merchandise.  But nobody owes you or any other fan anything .....

And no, it wouldn't "solve everything", because numbers are always interpreted differently by anybody that looks at them anyway.  How would transparancy help?  Let's say the owners are lying and fooling everybody with their so called losses and all they want and are fighting for is more profits...... who can tell them they aren't allowed to fight for more?

It's THEIR business, not the players and not the fans business... 

Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: October 22, 2011 12:29 pm
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Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: October 22, 2011 10:28 am

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

what gets lost in all of this are the employees that work at the stadiums and depend on these games for their livelyhood. it seems to me that todays NBA superstars just dont get it and are incredibly selfish. these guys make millions of dollars but yet it not enough? i guess having all that money makes you lose touch w/ reallity. while these superstars are out partying it up, the bench players im sure are probably struggling. the owners should not negotiate and simply find new players that appreciate the life-setting money they are recieving. if and when this lockout ends, i will not not be watching.

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: October 22, 2011 8:22 am

NBA allowing arenas to schedule on game nights

They are just too far away from each other.  Losing a year of profits and paychecks will probably settle everyone down and everyone can be more reasonable.  At first I didn't want the league to shut down, but maybe it's for the best.  Not the best for the fans, owners, or players, but for the game itself.  Rework the pay structure, the rules for trading/salary cap/ free agency, change everything.  Come out of this stronger with long-term sustainablility. 

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