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Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

Posted on: August 15, 2011 10:35 pm
Edited on: August 15, 2011 11:20 pm
 
Posted by Ben Golliverkobe-bryant-china

During the ongoing NBA lockout, the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the Great Wall of China.

Aside from Turkey, which put its money where its mouth is to land New Jersey Nets point guard Deron Williams, China has generated the most buzz in potentially landing NBA All-Star caliber players should the lockout result in a work stoppage. The only potential hold up would be if the Chinese Basketball Association followed through on a reported desire to institute a ban on signing players to contracts that include opt-outs that would allow them to return to the NBA if the labor negotiations are resolved.

That brings us to Los Angeles Lakers All-Star guard Kobe Bryant who, with Miami Heat All-Star forward LeBron James reportedly not interested in playing overseas, is far and away the most coveted and marketable star on the international market.

After Bryant reportedly walked away from the possibility of joining forces with Williams for Besiktas in Turkey because their offer wasn't sufficient, Yahoo! Sports now reports he is weighing potential offers from China that would pay him more than seven figures per month.
The Los Angeles Lakers’ Kobe Bryant has offers north of $1.5 million a month to play in China, and sources say he’d be inclined to accept a contract except for the one immense hurdle standing in his way: Chinese Basketball Association officials will likely pass a rule in the middle of this week forbidding the signing of players with NBA opt-out clauses.

Bryant’s stature and popularity make him unique, and teams have shown a willingness to meet his demands to play in China. Nike is motivated to get him on the floor, too. Bryant pushes product in the Far East, perhaps unlike any of his peers. Bryant believes he can be patient, wait for these Chinese and European markets to unfold, and make a decision about playing overseas on his own timetable.
Bureaucracy in China has swallowed much bigger fish than Bryant but the prospect of NBA players in the flesh would be such a tantalizing proposition for the country as a whole -- not to mention its economy -- that some sort of compromise could be worked out.
Comments

Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 10:20 am
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

Balrog:

You used my quote out of context, but let's go with it. Playing for the Globetrotters certainly didn't hurt Wilt's legacy. Why would playing a year for China hurt Kobe's? So you're looking at just salary. Great, but did you consider that there would be benefits included in the contract as well? I'm betting at minimum his family gets to travel with him or can come see him any time he wants or that he'd get nothing but pristine travel arrangements. But that's supposition.

You're just looking at salary when the money he could make from expanding his brand would easily surpass the yearly salary Kobe makes with the Lakers. You're talking global market at that point; 1/6 of the world's population. These people already love Kobe. To play over there for a year when America 'doesn't want him'? He'd make endorsement money hand over fist.

Kobe has a great contract with the Lakers. But the money he could make from being a global icon? A reverse Yao? Dwarfs it.

That's reason for Kobe



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 7:10 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

What many of you fail to realize is that the NBA teams won't break even (be at -0-) if the season is lost.  They will all lose money in some fashion because they have obligations that are fixed that they can't get out of (interest on debt, obligations with arenas, cities) plus all their payroll that they can't just stop or cut out like front-office staff (General Managers, etc) and coaching staff.  The teams really don't have much revenue with no games. Thus, a loss for everyone

Good point but a lot of teams will lose much less money without games being played.  The player's payroll is their largest expense by far, everything else doesn't compare.  And I don't know how many owners own versus lease the building they play in but for the ones that own the building they can book more events to bring in some much needed cash to get closer to that break even number.

As for the players going overseas, I'm sure some will give it a shot.  But it's nothing more then temporary, these guys for the most part can't handle going overseas for too long.  Players with a family just can't pick up and move to China that easily..... it's not that easy. Anybody that's ever travelled out of the country knows an extreme move like that is tough regardless of how much money that person makes.  

For me it comes down to one thing.  If all of the owners don't have a real good chance of making more money then their top player, it's useless allowing the NBA to continue like it is.   



Since: Nov 23, 2007
Posted on: August 16, 2011 5:22 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

This doesn't really seem like something Kobe will jump at.  Kobe has been making 20+ million a year.  If the Chinese offer 2+ million or more a month, then I'm sure Kobe wouldn't think twice about it.  Problem is, Kobe wouldn't have very much help team wise if none of the other stars stay in the US.  Not to mention playing for China would diminish his skills when he DOES come back to the NBA lol.  I'm sure we all really hope the NBA puts its greed on the back burner on low heat.  The fact that China is willing to throw money away like this should open the NBA bigwigs eyes.  If not, the NBA will be even worse off next season.  There are more people than NBA players and owners losing money here.  Arenas, sports bars, sports shops, who everything else.




Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: August 16, 2011 4:05 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

What many of you fail to realize is that the NBA teams won't break even (be at -0-) if the season is lost.  They will all lose money in some fashion because they have obligations that are fixed that they can't get out of (interest on debt, obligations with arenas, cities) plus all their payroll that they can't just stop or cut out like front-office staff (General Managers, etc) and coaching staff.  The teams really don't have much revenue with no games. Thus, a loss for everyone.

The problem lies in the fact that many players actually have viable options overseas for pay...unlike the NFL.  Thus you have owners losing money under the current system locking out players who in fact can go somewhere else and receive pay.  The only way this works is if the overseas pay is drastically lower than the CBA the owners are offering to the point that it makes a difference.  For many NBA players that really don't care as much about world championships as they do the money, playing overseas for a marginally less amount of money may be worth it, though the risk is higher and job security lower.

Needless to say, its really a bad situation in the NBA.  Maybe they could play with replacements. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 3:21 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

You do realize you're getting worked up over sports.  Try to find other hobbies that don't stress you out.  

Hey idiot.  CBS is all about sports, that's what we do here. And sometimes we get worked up over sports because guess what? We are passionate about the games we follow.  If you aren't or if posts like this offend you, get off these boards.  



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: August 16, 2011 2:43 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

The NBA and owners would be forced to pay up.

Now from a fan stand point, that would drive up ticket price, concessions and the like. 

The NBA owners are not going to "pay up" unless by that you mean "agree to a smaller wage decrease than they are currently demanding".  If the NBA is really losing $300 million per year and only 7 teams breaking even or making money they are not going to pay the players even more money under any circumstance.  Worst case scenario and the NBA folds because of the players going overseas -- as a money losing owner, guess what, I am no longer losing money; I am not making any but I am not losing any --I just got rid of tens of millions of dollars in expenses (player salaries, stadium workers, front office employees, etc) so I have no reason to "pay up" and continue to operate in a way that loses money.  Breakiing even with $0 from my NBA franchise is better than losing $10 or $15million per year isn't it?



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: August 16, 2011 2:37 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

$1.5 million a month for a player who has reached his ceiling and has won FIVE NBA titles.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. He's not playing in the NBA at this point for any other reason than to cement his already extraordinary resume.
(1) Playing in China is certainly not going to add anything to "cement his already extraordinary resume", only winning more NBA titles will do that and an injury in China could derail any chance of that, (2) $1.5mil/month ($18million/yr if the chinese season were 12 months, which I doubt) is still $7million to $8million less than his Lakers' salary when the NBA season resumes, (3) living traveling in the Euro or Chinese leagues is not the same as the USA and being with your family and (4) Bryant would be 1 injury away from losing the remaining $84million of his Lakers' contract (not that he probably is set for life anyway) ---- all good reasons for Kobe NOT to play overseas.



Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: August 16, 2011 1:26 pm
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

I find it amazing how dillusional NBA fans are, it's incredible and borderline insane to say the least.  Why would the owners care if ALL NBA players decide to play overseas?  When a league is losing money, they don't care what the players do.  When 23 teams are LOSING MONEY why in God's name would they be in a hurry to get back into business again?  Do you understand the owners actually SAVE MONEY while this lockout is in place? 

I know some of you dillusional people actually believe the owners are lying and they aren't really losing money.  People that believe that are not doing very well mentally... something is wrong with that mentality.  Do you really believe these success business owners outside of the NBA would shut down a profitable league and lose millions on a weekly basis just for the fun of it?   Obviously not, they didn't get into the position they are in today in their lives by shutting down profitable businesses.  They are where they are because they are smarter business people then buffoons on these boards think they are.

Even if I meet you insane people half way on this and pretend the owners aren't telling the complete truth, what does that really mean? Nothing, that's what it means.  So what if only 10 teams instead of 23 are losing money.  So what if 7 or 8 of the other 13 are breaking even.  So what if 5 or 6 of the 23 have owners banking a few million dollars per season.  So what if 7 or 8 teams in the NBA are making good money.  None of that matters, not one bit.

The NBA as a league exists so all owners can profit. And if not 100 percent of the owners they certainly should expect 80 or 90 percent of the owners to bank more money in profits then Kobe Bryant and other max players do playing the game the owners and league put themselves on the line for.

One final question.  How long do you think NBA players that are used to living the dream in the United States and travelling the world in the off season can handle playing and most importantly LIVING in China or Turkey or just about anywhere else overseas?  Most of these guys have families.  A lot have wives with friends and family close by.  Many have children, a lot with young children in school with their friends and family close by.  Are any of you people on these boards married?  If you are do you really think it would be that simple to ask your wife to pack up for a year or two, prepare the kids for a new life and have her say goodbye to everybody she cares about just so her husband fights the good fight and makes 10 million dollars per season in the new CBA instead of 6 or 7 or 8 million dollars? Or maybe 5 million dollars instead of 3 or 4?  Or maybe 13 or 14 million dollars instead of 20 million per season?  Do you really think your wife would turn her life upside down just so you can make a point to your employer?  I guarantee you without ever meeting your wives that's not the case.

Could these guys go overseas on their own and leave their families behind until the new CBA is in place?  Technically they could and that's the approach they are probably attempting to take.  But how long does a player go without seeing his kids?  How long does a player's wife or girlfriend put up with that nonesense? 

It's not that easy folks..... use your heads.  The owners couldn't care less what the players do.  If they do go overseas ( and a large percentage will never do it) and they get hurt their contracts in the NBA are null and void.  As in gone..... even the NBAPA president implied that when he suggested all players better make sure they have great insurance over there...... you guys think it's easy to intimidate the NBA owners but it's not even close to as simple as you think it is.

You do realize you're getting worked up over sports.  Try to find other hobbies that don't stress you out.  




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 11:22 am
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

I think he should take the offer. It will send a message to David Stern and the rest of the NBA that its premier players demand need to be met. If Bryant, James, Wade, Anthony , etc when to China. The NBA and owners would be forced to pay up.

I find it amazing how dillusional NBA fans are, it's incredible and borderline insane to say the least.  Why would the owners care if ALL NBA players decide to play overseas?  When a league is losing money, they don't care what the players do.  When 23 teams are LOSING MONEY why in God's name would they be in a hurry to get back into business again?  Do you understand the owners actually SAVE MONEY while this lockout is in place? 

I know some of you dillusional people actually believe the owners are lying and they aren't really losing money.  People that believe that are not doing very well mentally... something is wrong with that mentality.  Do you really believe these success business owners outside of the NBA would shut down a profitable league and lose millions on a weekly basis just for the fun of it?   Obviously not, they didn't get into the position they are in today in their lives by shutting down profitable businesses.  They are where they are because they are smarter business people then buffoons on these boards think they are.

Even if I meet you insane people half way on this and pretend the owners aren't telling the complete truth, what does that really mean? Nothing, that's what it means.  So what if only 10 teams instead of 23 are losing money.  So what if 7 or 8 of the other 13 are breaking even.  So what if 5 or 6 of the 23 have owners banking a few million dollars per season.  So what if 7 or 8 teams in the NBA are making good money.  None of that matters, not one bit.

The NBA as a league exists so all owners can profit. And if not 100 percent of the owners they certainly should expect 80 or 90 percent of the owners to bank more money in profits then Kobe Bryant and other max players do playing the game the owners and league put themselves on the line for.

One final question.  How long do you think NBA players that are used to living the dream in the United States and travelling the world in the off season can handle playing and most importantly LIVING in China or Turkey or just about anywhere else overseas?  Most of these guys have families.  A lot have wives with friends and family close by.  Many have children, a lot with young children in school with their friends and family close by.  Are any of you people on these boards married?  If you are do you really think it would be that simple to ask your wife to pack up for a year or two, prepare the kids for a new life and have her say goodbye to everybody she cares about just so her husband fights the good fight and makes 10 million dollars per season in the new CBA instead of 6 or 7 or 8 million dollars? Or maybe 5 million dollars instead of 3 or 4?  Or maybe 13 or 14 million dollars instead of 20 million per season?  Do you really think your wife would turn her life upside down just so you can make a point to your employer?  I guarantee you without ever meeting your wives that's not the case.

Could these guys go overseas on their own and leave their families behind until the new CBA is in place?  Technically they could and that's the approach they are probably attempting to take.  But how long does a player go without seeing his kids?  How long does a player's wife or girlfriend put up with that nonesense? 

It's not that easy folks..... use your heads.  The owners couldn't care less what the players do.  If they do go overseas ( and a large percentage will never do it) and they get hurt their contracts in the NBA are null and void.  As in gone..... even the NBAPA president implied that when he suggested all players better make sure they have great insurance over there...... you guys think it's easy to intimidate the NBA owners but it's not even close to as simple as you think it is. 



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: August 16, 2011 10:26 am
 

Kobe Bryant has $1.5 million/month China offers?

$1.5 million a month for a player who has reached his ceiling and has won FIVE NBA titles.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. He's not playing in the NBA at this point for any other reason than to cement his already extraordinary resume.


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