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Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

Posted on: July 23, 2011 5:22 pm
Edited on: July 23, 2011 5:55 pm
 
Posted by Royce Young

Here's something that might not surprise you: Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown is interested in coaching still. According to Yahoo! Sports, Brown has expressed interest in joining Doc Rivers' staff with the Celtics. That's provided Lawrence Frank accepts the Pistons head coaching position officially.

Brown most recently coached for the Bobcats last season before he was dismissed during the season. The question is whether or not the Celtics want to hire another high-profile assistant or promote from within. But as the report says, Brown could be willing to take less than the going rate just to get back on the bench.

Brown is 70 and of course is a decorated coach, winning an NBA title with the Pistons. But after his dismissal from the Bobcats, he's struggled to find a spot somewhere. He tried to even get back in the college game but didn't gain much interest from any schools.

Brown has coached nine teams in the NBA, winning 1,098 games and placing himself around the top of all-time coaches. Hard to ignore his credentials. But Brown has notoriously been difficult to work with and is often hard on players, especially young ones. Some teams are a little leery of his reputation as a high-maintenance coach.

But he obviously isn't done and is willing to take a cut in profile and pay to get back on the bench. And if he's looking for another run at the big prize, the Celtics are a good option. It's just a matter of if Rivers wants him.
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Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2011 12:40 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

I myself was responding to Coach Brown as a college coach.  No way should anyone hire him, unless its a smaller school that needs to boost its profile for revenue reasons.  I could see a few boosters coughing up extra $$$ if Coach Brown signed up with Po Dunk U.

As a pro coach, its vastly different.  Please don't combine the two.  You need a coach that will at least appear to want to say for 4+ years and NO WAY can anyone convince any sane person that Coach Brown would stay.  He begins getting an itch to move the minute he signs a contract.  He just is wired funny mentally.  

As a pro, his age and unwillingness to stay long is much less pertinent. 

I do disagree about his "success".  He has won an NCAA and NBA championship, with very good talent (and a top NCAA school as far as basketball).  Other than a few good seasons, the rest of his career has been quite mediocre.  I know the championships mean something, but so does the body of work when not winning championships (like even making playoffs or not having losing seasons).

At Kansas, no coach should ever miss the NCAA tournament, so don't think "making the tournament" is a basis for coaching success there.  It isn't.  Winning the thing, making the final four or elite eight is, but no just making the tournament.

Is Coach Brown better than average?  Yes.  Is Coach Brown as great as his aura and brand that has built over the years?  Not even close.

He just doesn't meld young or old, talented or hard-working players well enough.  He needs certain types of players or he isn't very successful over another median coach.




Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 11:46 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

There do seem to be many misperceptions of coach Larry Brown. I say misperceptions because they are created by media and are very surface and appear to be completely false according to the players that were there.

Perception one: Larry Brown is too old to coach. The age of a coach is not the point. Larry Brown is an energetic as any coach you can study. He does not act tired or old but wise and empowered.

Perception two: Larry Brown moves too often. This may have some validity but as you study his complete pattern there have been few places that he did not substantially improve by coaching there. He is an intense coach and that style of teaching does wear on his players so three to five years is a good run and will provide really good fundamentals training.

Perception three: Larry Brown is a failure as a coach. This one makes me sad. There is no coach alive today that has the equal of Larry Brown's coaching ability. He understands the game so well and he teaches the game. He is not a players' coach. His players do things his way, period. But he does teach every moment he is thinking and studying and understanding the weakness of players and how to help them improve. Especially point guards are blessed to have this man teach them. As far as Larry's history -  he is the single and only coach to have both an NCAA and an NBA title after 70 years of league history. That speaks volumes. Especially when you look at both title teams. Kansas had a weak supporting team with one really good star, Danny Manning. They played their way through the tournament as a low seed and simply would not quit and allow defeat. Likewise Detroit did not have any stars. But he molded them into a powerful cohesive team that blossomed and took the title. Larry Brown is a success far more than most coaches.

I do hope that people look beyond the rhetoric and see the reality. Larry is not ego. His willingness to coach in Boston is a great choice because Doc is not threatened by Larry's presence and Larry will do all he can to help Doc. Larry has spent this last year visiting college teams that are rooted in his work (you would be amazed at his coaching tree.) Never pushing himself but encouraging each coach by his presence and his words. Larry is already Hall of Fame and yet he works on (he is much younger than Tex Winters at the end). I hear that Doc does not want to hold another assistant coach down and perhaps he can find a way to elevate him while still adding Larry. It will be the best thing he has done since winning the championship. If there is one more run in this group they will want to use all the resources available and that is best - Larry Brown.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: July 24, 2011 11:33 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

Brown is 70?  That puts him just slightly lower than the average age of the Celtics starters.  Outside of Gazoo Rondo of course.  As a Laker fan I think it is great that the Celtics keep hiring old guys.  Maybe grey is the new green.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 23, 2011 9:47 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

He can't find a job in college because:

A - He is old to be starting a new job, but not THAT old

B - More importantly, he rarely stays ANYWHERE more than two years until the next gig is offered.  I would be weary of Coach Brown if he were 40 or 50, much less 70.  You need a coach you feel (gut feeling) will stay for 4+ years.  He has rarely offered that kind of stability, maybe now he is too old to go jumping around, but still. 




Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: July 23, 2011 7:34 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

It's hard for me to believe that "LB" can't find or doesn't have a job in the NBA. It's probably because of his reputation as being "high-maintenance" as far as being a coach. Me personally, I would rather see "LB" either as a consultant or in a front office position. As for being an assistant on the bench, that will make any coach feel very uncomfortable, knowing that if your team isn't playing "top-notch" basketball....you'll be replaced by a coaching legend whether it's short/long term. Now as for college basketball,he wouldn't last too long because today's players in college because of the "primadonna" treatment plus they don't stay in college long enough.Surprised



Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: July 23, 2011 6:42 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

We really don't want Brian Shaw back in Boston. While he was a player here he just went up and quit to play in Europe. He was an embarassment to the Celtics then, he would still be now.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: July 23, 2011 6:23 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

Wtf?  If he wanted to coach, why didn't the Pistons go after him instead of bulls--- Lawrence Frank?  Can the Pistons now do a Frank-for-Brown coaching trade?
Because he's old and a bit crazy. Frank isn't a big-time name, but he's a solid coach who gets his players to play hard and he preaches defense. IMO, the Pistons made a really solid hire there.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: July 23, 2011 6:21 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

Here's something that might not surprise you: Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown is interested in coaching still. , Brown has expressed interest in joining Doc Rivers' staff with the . That's provided Lawrence Frank accepts the head coaching position officially
That's too funny. Larry Brown a 2nd banana? Unless Doc Rivers is crazy, this  would never happen. Larry was a great coach and can coach defense, but his ego would never allow it to happen. Doc would be smart to hire Brian Shaw who got jobbed in LA losing out to that other Brown.

Larry Brown may be itching to comeback watching the 80 year-old Jack McKeon manage the Marlins. My suggestion is Larry should just forget coaching at the NBA level anymore and maybe go back to college where players listen and he may actually be able to teach some youngsters what he knows about the sport which is a lot. There he may be able to continue to coach and actually do it without all the hoopla surrounded with the NBA and his personality clashes with today's NBA player.



Since: Mar 21, 2007
Posted on: July 23, 2011 5:41 pm
 

Report: Larry Brown wants to join Celtics staff

Wtf?  If he wanted to coach, why didn't the Pistons go after him instead of bulls--- Lawrence Frank?  Can the Pistons now do a Frank-for-Brown coaching trade?


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