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Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Posted on: May 17, 2011 12:52 pm
 
Charles Barkley says that every NBA player has played with gay teammates. Posted by Ben Golliver. charles-barkley

On Sunday, we noted that Phoenix Suns president Rick Welts revealed to the New York Times that he is a homosexual, becoming the first prominent male professional sports team executive to do so. 

In the article, Welts stated: "This is one of the last industries where the subject is off limits. Nobody’s comfortable in engaging in a conversation.”

One person who is comfortable engaging in every conversation is TNT broadcaster and NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley. The Washington Post reports that Barkley says that he played alongside gay players and that he believes the NBA is more ready for a current player to follow Welts' lead and come out than most people think.
“First of all, every player has played with gay guys. It bothers me when I hear these reporters and jocks get on TV and say, ‘Oh, no guy can come out in a team sport. These guys would go crazy.’ First of all, quit telling me what I think. I’d rather have a gay guy who can play than a straight guy who can’t play.”

“Any professional athlete who gets on TV or radio and says he never played with a gay guy is a stone-freakin’ idiot,” Barkley said. “I would even say the same thing in college. Every college player, every pro player in any sport has probably played with a gay person."

Also weary of the perception that a majority of straight male athletes are intensely homophobic, Barkley said gay players pose no problem, adding, “Man, we need to outlaw guys who suck at sports.”
Although delivered unconventionally as always, Barkley's point stands. Talent is always going to be the most important determining factor in a highly competitive field like professional sports. That homosexual players have, to this point, chosen the lesser of two evils by remaining anonymous makes sense. That's how it's always been.

But does it feel like we're turning a corner here? Barkley's honesty is important and the support shown to Welts by other media members, including Bill Simmons, helps frame his decision to come forward as an important milestone on a longer path towards acknowledged, public equality.

Does public support for Welts and honest conversation about the life he was living make it easier for a current player to step forward? One would think so.
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Comments

Since: Apr 10, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 7:09 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

"Trust me, you don't want to know 'em."

You really are an idiot.  Everybody has met a gay person, probably a whole bunch of them.  I'm sorry your one experience was bad.  Growing up in Oregon and having gone to school in Portland, I've probably met far more openly gay people than you, and I can assure you most of theml offer a lot more to society than you appear to.
 You're entire point is idiotic as over 1,500 species of animals have been confirmed to have some homosexual tendencies.  You can argue moral implications all you want, that doesn't change the fact that homosexuality exists in nature, most likely due to different chemical balances, as is suggested by countless studies.

60% of sexual interaction between Bonobo apes takes place between two or more females.
Homosexual tendencies within Mallard populations has been known to reach 20%.
As high as 94% of "mountings" in a single giraffe population has been between two males 
Homosexuality in rams has been studied extremely extensively, and on average 8% of rams are homosexual even when given the choice between a female and male.

You can talk about nature all you want, but nature doesn't seem to give a crap about what you have to say. 



Since: May 25, 2011
Posted on: May 27, 2011 11:52 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Now that is funny. Laughing



Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: May 27, 2011 3:38 am
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

I refuse to enter this Godless 21st century America.  I'm not stupid thank you, and I'm speaking from experience, so you can take your sheltered college kid paper thin degree having ass as far into the 21st century as you want.  If you embrace science before logic (yes, I did just say that!) and faith, I believe nature will do an ignorant fool in such as you all the same.  I don't feel the need to respond to your assinine posts anymore.  Good luck, and Godspeed.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 26, 2011 5:59 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Thanks for the review, Okakura.  Now I'll provide you with an end-all statement.  Homosexuality originates in one's environment early on in life.  End of story.  VaHawk's data sounds about right w/o looking up and confirming every single point." 



My bad; didn't realize that you had PhD's in child psychiatry and history!

Your "end-all" statement should actually read "end-all-critical-thinking&quo
t; statement.

Merely feeling passionately about your point of view doesn't validate it. There are other things like facts and reason, and your posts continue to lack both, as do the posters that you favorably cite.

Feel free to join the 21st century any time, pal. 



Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: May 26, 2011 1:53 am
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Thanks for the review, Okakura.  Now I'll provide you with an end-all statement.  Homosexuality originates in one's environment early on in life.  End of story.  VaHawk's data sounds about right w/o looking up and confirming every single point.  Gays are challenging a social standard and moral code that has existed for centuries just to make themselves happy.  It's logically flawed from a scientific standpoint.  An organism must reproduce to ensure the survival of it's species.  Noone's replacing these people.  Finally, with drugs and VD's aplenty in these deviants lifestyles, they ARE a danger to themselves and those around them.  So stop acting like you know something about something.  I've had enough experience first hand (I had the unfortunate experience of living with a "bi-sexual" male in his early 20's; didn't know until after I moved in with him) to see what they're about.  Trust me, you don't want to know 'em.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 25, 2011 3:43 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

VaHawk: Must be pretty comfortable living in that Breitbart-Limbaugh-esque alternative universe where your own private opinions and cherry-picked (and completely made-up) data automatically morphs into moral law. Conservapedia? Really?    

You are so blinded by your own bigotry and personal feelings on this issue that you actually think they have a rational or scientific basis.

But if you disagree, here's a science experiment you can try on yourself: Hook yourself up to a polygraph machine and answer this question - Did you choose to be heterosexual? If you answer "no," then you are admitting that sexual preference is geneticlly hard-wired and not a lifestyle choice. And if you maintain that non-heterosexuality is a disease or a mutation, then you're scientifically illiterate.

If, on the other hand, you maintain that gays and lesbians are actually heterosexuals who mysteriously choose to override their natural (straight) sexual impulses to engage in an alternative, undesirable, socially diapproved "lifestyle in order to alientate themselves from friends, family, church, and workplace colleagues, perhaps you'd like to offer a rational explanation as to why anyone would choose such a lifestyle. And while you're at it, perhaps you could also explain why this happens in early and even pre-adolescence?

Free country, VaHawk. You're free to be a bigot. Hell, you're even free to pretend that you're not a bigot and to cite a plethora of wing-nut talking points in an attempt to polish your turd arguments.

But the majority of rational, fair-minded folks are also free to believe that you are full of it.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 25, 2011 3:42 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

VaHawk: Must be pretty comfortable living in that Breitbart-Limbaugh-esque alternative universe where your own private opinions and cherry-picked (and completely made-up) data automatically morphs into moral law. Conservapedia? Really?    

You are so blinded by your own bigotry and personal feelings on this issue that you actually think they have a rational or scientific basis.

But if you disagree, here's a science experiment you can try on yourself: Hook yourself up to a polygraph machine and answer this question - Did you choose to be heterosexual? If you answer "no," then you are admitting that sexual preference is geneticlly hard-wired and not a lifestyle choice. And if you maintain that non-heterosexuality is a disease or a mutation, then you're scientifically illiterate.

If, on the other hand, you maintain that gays and lesbians are actually heterosexuals who mysteriously choose to override their natural (straight) sexual impulses to engage in an alternative, undesirable, socially diapproved "lifestyle in order to alientate themselves from friends, family, church, and workplace colleagues, perhaps you'd like to offer a rational explanation as to why anyone would choose such a lifestyle. And while you're at it, perhaps you could also explain why this happens in early and even pre-adolescence?

Free country, VaHawk. You're free to be a bigot. Hell, you're even free to pretend that you're not a bigot and to cite a plethora of wing-nut talking points in an attempt to polish your turd arguments.

But the majority of rational, fair-minded folks are also free to believe that you are full of it.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 25, 2011 3:41 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

VaHawk: Must be pretty comfortable living in that Breitbart-Limbaugh-esque alternative universe where your own private opinions and cherry-picked (and completely made-up) data automatically morphs into moral law. Conservapedia? Really?    

You are so blinded by your own bigotry and personal feelings on this issue that you actually think they have a rational or scientific basis.

But if you disagree, here's a science experiment you can try on yourself: Hook yourself up to a polygraph machine and answer this question - Did you choose to be heterosexual? If you answer "no," then you are admitting that sexual preference is geneticlly hard-wired and not a lifestyle choice. And if you maintain that non-heterosexuality is a disease or a mutation, then you're scientifically illiterate.

If, on the other hand, you maintain that gays and lesbians are actually heterosexuals who mysteriously choose to override their natural (straight) sexual impulses to engage in an alternative, undesirable, socially diapproved "lifestyle in order to alientate themselves from friends, family, church, and workplace colleagues, perhaps you'd like to offer a rational explanation as to why anyone would choose such a lifestyle. And while you're at it, perhaps you could also explain why this happens in early and even pre-adolescence?

Free country, VaHawk. You're free to be a bigot. Hell, you're even free to pretend that you're not a bigot and to cite a plethora of wing-nut talking points in an attempt to polish your turd arguments.

But the majority of rational, fair-minded folks are also free to believe that you are full of it.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 25, 2011 3:40 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

VaHawk: Must be pretty comfortable living in that Breitbart-Limbaugh-esque alternative universe where your own private opinions and cherry-picked (and completely made-up) data automatically morphs into moral law. Conservapedia? Really?    

You are so blinded by your own bigotry and personal feelings on this issue that you actually think they have a rational or scientific basis.

But if you disagree, here's a science experiment you can try on yourself: Hook yourself up to a polygraph machine and answer this question - Did you choose to be heterosexual? If you answer "no," then you are admitting that sexual preference is geneticlly hard-wired and not a lifestyle choice. And if you maintain that non-heterosexuality is a disease or a mutation, then you're scientifically illiterate.

If, on the other hand, you maintain that gays and lesbians are actually heterosexuals who mysteriously choose to override their natural (straight) sexual impulses to engage in an alternative, undesirable, socially diapproved "lifestyle in order to alientate themselves from friends, family, church, and workplace colleagues, perhaps you'd like to offer a rational explanation as to why anyone would choose such a lifestyle. And while you're at it, perhaps you could also explain why this happens in early and even pre-adolescence?

Free country, VaHawk. You're free to be a bigot. Hell, you're even free to pretend that you're not a bigot and to cite a plethora of wing-nut talking points in an attempt to polish your turd arguments.

But the majority of rational, fair-minded folks are also free to believe that you are full of it.



Since: May 25, 2011
Posted on: May 25, 2011 2:50 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

What facts?  Barkley simply stated that every player has played with a gay teammate.  The word homosexuality brings out the worst in people, everyone wants to be a research physician and quote statistics.  We are talking about a game that grown men play and folks are jumping to all kind of conclusions.  There are gay players in all professional sports right now today, and there will always be gay men in sports.  That should be the very reason why people should understand that men and women are born this way.  It has nothing to do with how good you can shoot a baskeballt, how hard you tackle, or how far you hit a baseball, it just has to do with the fact that you prefer the same sex as a partner.  Maybe you are missing a few hormones that make you desire the same sex as a partner, but not enough to keep you from hitting a base ball 430 feet.  So please, loosen your jock straps, and forget about a person's preference in bed and in life, and worry about the fact that your favorite athlete gives you your money's worth for the ticket that you paid for, everything else about that person is irrevelent.


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