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Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

Posted on: May 5, 2011 3:39 pm
Posted by Royce Young

There's always been reason to believe Isiah Thomas wasn't done with the New York Knicks. He's owner James Dolan's friend, Dolan tried to hire him as an "advisor" last summer and reportedly, Thomas was actively involved in bringing Carmelo Anthony to the Big Apple.

But it's going to end there, according to the New York Post.

Current president Donnie Walsh is close to signing a contract extension and Dolan has informed Walsh that Thomas won't be brought back in any capacity. That has always appeared to be a contentious thing within the Knicks front office was who actually had power. The Melodrama was a big example of that.

As the Post reports though, Walsh is "expected to be granted permission to hire his successor as a central part of a new agreement that should be announced shortly."

If you've somehow forgotten, Thomas essentially destroyed the Knicks' cap situation, overpaid everyone, got himself involved in a lawsuit and set the franchise back a good five years. Walsh has resurrected basketball at Madison Square Garden by getting New York's cap under control while also accumulating a good amount of young talent.

There's absolutely no reason to flirt with Thomas again and ignore Walsh. Sounds like Dolan is finally making a very good call here that's in the best interest of his organization and not his personal ones. Not that there isn't some curiosity justified by wondering why it took this long to finally ditch Thomas and commit to Walsh though. But hey, better late than never.

Walsh has reportedly been keen on former Knicks guard Allan Houston as a possible replacement, though I'm sure the Knicks will at least check out the current market. The good news is though, Isiah Thomas won't be one of them.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: May 6, 2011 8:18 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

I agree carliledevils. Isiah was horrible at everything he did.  His only good things were drafting David Lee and bringing in Randolph.  The only problem is that Eddy Curry was there, so it was a match made in hell.  But Isiah had so many more bad moves that this better be true.  I will list as many as I CAN remember:

1)  Trading for Marbury.  Liked it at the time being a fan, but we took on Penny Hardaway's monster contract for it to happen and he had nothing left in the tank.  We took on that contract and the Suns signed Nash and competed for titles.
2)  Trading for Curry.  We gave up two first round picks and left them BOTH unprotected by the lottery.  The Bulls went on to draft LaMarcus Aldridge (later trading him) and Joakim Noah.  Imagine had we had one of those guys.  We would have at least somewhat of an inside presence.  It would be greatly better than it is now.  Instead, we had a player who was fat, out of shape, could not stay on the floor, and played without any desire for the game.  Earned his paycheck and showed to us that it was the only thing that mattered to him.  Plus, he had a heart defect on top of it, which is why the Bulls dumped him in the first place.  In fact, he lacked a heart the way he played the game.
3)  Signing Jerome James.  The worst signing in NBA history.  You do not give a guy who had one good playoff series 5 years and 30 million dollars.  He was known as a goofball who did not play hard before the contract and had the name Big Snacks as his nickname.  And was a fixture at the end of the bench who played even less than Curry.
4)  Trading for Francis.  Why not add another me-first point guard when we have one already?  This is what happened when we traded for Francis.  We took him, his losing attitude, and his contract on for an expiring contract of Penny.  Who trades expiring contracts for bad contracts?
5)  Drafting Renaldo Balkman in the first round.  Nobody even heard of him.  Unless you are a Gamecocks fan or followed the NIT. I know me and most Knicks fans don't follow either, so I was shocked with his selection.  Plus, he was offensively challenged and was not that good on defense either.  Although he was a bust, Marcus Williams was a true PG which we lacked and needed and would have been a steal.  Also, if he wanted Balkman so bad, he would have been there in the 2nd round.  No one was taking him.
6)  Signing Jamal Crawford to a long-term, huge contract when all he can do is shoot the ball and is a very streaky shooter.  Liked him, but he was paid way too much.  If he was brought in for less money in the same role he has in ATL, then I would welcome him back.
7)  Nothing to do with basketball.  He was accused of raping a woman and cost the team millions.  Also, he fought with fans and was clueless as a GM and coach.  If anyone thought Dolan was smart, they are wrong because he is lucky he inherited the business from his daddy, who built it from scratch to a multi-billion dollar corporation.  And if anyone thought he would be good for the Knicks, just read through this.

Since: Jan 28, 2010
Posted on: May 6, 2011 7:16 pm

I love this revisionist

Isiah Thomas has forgotten more than most of us will ever know. The Knickerbockers were a mess when Isiah came to town. It was a miracle that he was able to make any kind of trades at all given the makeup of the roster at that time.

Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley, both of whom carried expensive, long-term contracts were traded for BEFORE Isiah was named the Knicks' president on December 22, 2003.

Isiah hired Lenny Wilkens (who has won an NBA championship and more games than any other coach) and Larry Brown (best coach ever) to coach the team.

Some of the players he aquired:Stephon Marbury, Tim Thomas, Nazr Mohammed, Eddy Curry, Antonio Davis, Jamal Crawford, Jerome James, Malik Rose, Steve Francis, Penny Hardaway, Maurice Taylor, David Lee, Channing Frye, Zach Randolph, Wilson Chandler. He aquired these players in consultation with hall of fame coaches.

It didn't work out; but Nazr Mohammed, Jamal Crawford, David Lee, Channing Frye, Zach Randolph and Wilson Chandler are still playing and playing well in the NBA. The other guys were either superstars not far removed from superstardom or high draft picks still in the prime.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: May 6, 2011 5:29 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

I do not understand any body thinking that Isiah Thomas would be a good thing in any way shape or form for the New York Knicks. Donnie Walsh has done nothing except bring back the Knicks back to respectability. All the Knicks problems started with Isiah Thomas the man did his best to bankruptcy Madison Garden and the knicks.

Since: Mar 10, 2009
Posted on: May 6, 2011 1:29 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

Knick fans, you may think you're done with Isiah, but Isiah ain't done with you.  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: May 6, 2011 12:41 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

Thomas has proven to be completely incompetent as an exec. Much like Matt Millen was as GM of the NFL's Detroit Lions. Walsh is basketball savvy and he'll eventually get the Knicks back to serious contention for a title. They made huge strides this past year but need a couple more pieces and better quality depth. Walsh has them going in the right direction. 

Since: Jan 13, 2009
Posted on: May 6, 2011 11:26 am

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

This is shocking news to NBA fans--given that it was this genius that set the Knicks franchise back  and put them into a 5 year hole that they are now just digging out of--saddest to hear this news are slugs like E. Curry- and rival general managers who loved horse trading and dumping underachieving players with bloated contracts on the knicks--i am really sure the melon head deal would not have been culminated w/o this guys influence.

Since: May 5, 2011
Posted on: May 6, 2011 1:03 am
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Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: May 6, 2011 12:28 am

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

Good news. Isiah has proven to be worse than incompetent. Any team who would bring him into their office should just fold.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: May 5, 2011 10:52 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

Dolan was born with a silver spoon up his ass--he's a complete idiot.  Watch: even if this story proves true, the spectre of Isaiah will continue to haunt the Knicks.  This is a DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED franchise.

Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: May 5, 2011 10:42 pm

Report: Isiah Thomas not coming back to Knicks

No disrespect intended here Aliens509, but 360 is a complete circle which would put the Knick right back where they started.  Isiah was one of the major players in the  gutting of the team to bring Melo to NY.  I may be alone in my thinking that we could have gotten Melo much cheaper if we had just waited.  The Knicks were going to make the playoffs with or without Melo, we had a team in place and everyone knew their role all of a sudden Melo comes along and everyone had to make adjustments.  

We went from a team that at least tried to stop someone sometime to a team that tried to outscore everyone, team concepts were compromised to accomodate the new firepower,  we sucked and never regained the team approach to anything.  We lost in the deal, we gave up all of our draft picks and had to give up money, sounds like Isiah to me, overpay for everything. I sometimes think that Mr Dolan does not want the knicks to win, all he is interested in is putting butts in the seats with big names.  To win in the NBA you need a team, that has an identity, and has individuals that know their roles, we lost that with the Melo trade, we are no better off that we were when Isiah was killing us with his ignorance.

Putting butts in the seats but not winning a damn thing, maybe the new motto of ownership is:  We make money even when we lose cause we've figured out how to put bodies in the seat.       

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