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Van Gundy says the Hawks are a bunch of floppers

Posted on: April 24, 2011 5:10 pm
Posted by Royce Young

The Hawks and Magic have turned up the Heat a bit in their seven game series, most notably with the skirmish between Jason Richardson and Zaza Pachulia. Both are serving one-game suspensions for this headbutt/slapface fight.

Stan Van Gundy as he tends to do, added a little more fuel to the fire calling the Hawks a bunch of floppers, via the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
“I like it when guys stand up and fight like men,” Van Gundy said Saturday. “I think that is what the game is all about. The one thing that frustrates me is all the flopping.”

Van Gundy cited three plays from the Hawks’ 88-84 victory in Game 3 on Friday.

Hawks center Jason Collins drew a charging call when he hit the court after contact with Orlando center Dwight Howard and later did the same to guard Jameer Nelson. Van Gundy said Howard “touched [Hawks center] Zaza Pachulia in the chest on a screen and that sent him to the floor.”

“The one thing I learned is our guys are a lot stronger than I thought they were,” Van Gundy said sarcastically.

Van Gundy has long been on the flopping crusade mainly because that tactic is one of the top defensive moves in guarding Dwight Howard. Pachulia has used it already a number of times in the series and Van Gundy is tired of it.

I can't really argue with Van Gundy because I despise flopping. I think it cheapens the game. Trying to trick an official into calling a foul where one didn't exist just isn't basketball. It's acting. It's soccer. I don't like it.

But here's the thing: It's effective. Not only does it turn the ball over, but it also puts your team one closer to the bonus and an extra foul on the other team's player. If you pull it off, it's great for you. There's really no downside to it other than sometimes you open up a bit clearer path to the rim if you don't get the call.

I ask the league if there would ever be a consideration of adjusting flopping rules and the answer was that it's come up multiple times in Competition Committee meetings. Maybe if it's an obvious flop, the flopper would get the foul? A technical foul? Create a "flopping flagrant" that gives the team a free throw and the ball?

It's such a tough call to make anyway that nothing will likely ever be done. Which is why this won't be the last time Stan Van Gundy says something about it.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2011 10:02 am

Van Gundy says the Hawks are a bunch of floppers

Van Gundy is an assbag.... First off he has the biggest plyer in the league handsdown and the guy gets touch fouls called in his favor ALL THE TIME. He hammers on players half his size and rarely gets a call against him, and when he does he whines like Kobe. The only reason Howard is having the output he is, is because of the free throw line and the fact the refs let him hold and push people out of the way! Van Gundy has noone to blme but the piss poor Magic shooting. He wasnt crying about fouls when the 4 guards were hitting all the jumpers when Howard used to pass it to them. Now he doesnt need to pass because you can fart on him and the refs blow the whistle... OH and hes hitting his foulshots BUT THEY ARE LOSING. Van Gundy needs a new act... maybe waterboy

Since: Nov 25, 2009
Posted on: April 24, 2011 6:59 pm

Van Gundy says the Hawks are a bunch of floppers

I really like the idea of a flopping flagrant, but it's just another subjective thing for refs to keep their eyes on.  And people think the NBA is fixed already!  Suppose a player on team 'X' legitimately draws a charge against a superstar player from team 'Y'.  The ref makes a questionable judgment call and awards the superstar a free throw and the ball.

Unfortunately the Association cannot fine the players so much that it will make them really think twice about flopping.

Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: April 24, 2011 6:46 pm

Van Gundy says the Hawks are a bunch of floppers

1. Howard is the strongest guy in the game .. so anyone he "bumps" so flying.

2. He needs a freakin bigger jersey.

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