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Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

Posted on: March 4, 2011 6:03 pm
Posted by Royce Young

Here's the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture best summed up: The Detroit Pistons, who are 22-41, still have a realistic shot at making the postseason. They're really just a five or six game winning streak away from being right in the hunt.

Save your comments about how bad these teams are for later. Yes, I know Golden State would be an Eastern playoff team right now. Yes, I know 12 teams in the West are better than the current eighth place team in the East. Yes, I know the Clippers would have a legit shot at making the postseason. The bottom of the East is really bad, alright?

That's kind of become just the way it is in the East over the years. The conference has become extremely top heavy, with three heavyweights sitting on a perch (Boston, Miami, Chicago), three other talented-but-not-there teams (Orlando, Atlanta, New York) and then the final two stragglers.

The question is, who exactly will be those stragglers? Like I said, it's kind of wide open. The Pacers looked dead in the water before firing Jim O'Brien but they won a few games and jumped right back into eighth. That's kind of the way it goes right now.

And the bigger question: Does it even matter who finishes in those last two spots? Does any of the East's bottom playoff dwellers really have a chance of pushing the Heat, Celtics or Bulls in the first round? Most definitely, probably not, but still, being one of the final eight teams in your conference is a big achievement in itself and something to build on.


Philadelphia 76ers (30-30)

Somehow, one of the classic teams in the league in a great sports city have remained almost entirely under the radar, despite putting together an impressive run over the last two months. The 76ers were 15-23 on Jan. 11, but since then have gone 15-7 to get to 30-30. They've gone from being a team poised to blow up the roster, sending players like Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala out, to a group that's kind of mildly scary.

Doug Collins has a reputation for being a first season miracle worker and this campaign with the Sixers has been no different. Philly will almost definitely be in the final eight, but the real question is if they can actually push anyone to six or seven games. They've gotten to .500 largely by beating up on the dregs of the East. They take care of business against teams they're better than and stay competitive against teams they aren't as good as. That's a recipe to hang tough against anyone.

Best-case scenario: Philadelphia keeps up its current pace and doesn't just make the playoffs, but actually pushes the Knicks for sixth in the East. It's entirely possible too. Right now, the Sixers are just 1.5 out of sixth. If they got there, they'd get Chicago in the first round and actually, they match up decently there.

Worst-case scenario: It's hard to see Philly slipping so far to fall out of the postseason, because come on, look who's chasing them. But they could certainly fall and slip to eighth. Their goal needs to be finishing above .500 for the season, so a worst-case would be with less than 41 wins.

Indiana Pacers (27-33)

I can't get enough of this team right now. Under interim coach Frank Vogel, they've been scoring like crazy, playing with confidence and beating good teams. I can promise you, the Heat don't want any part of these Pacers in an opening round series.

They have a leg up on their next closest competition in Charlotte because the Bobcats recently sold off some of their better players. That doesn't guarantee them anything though. Getting to 38-40 wins will most likely lock in eighth in the East and the Pacers look to have the best shot at getting there. They're hot, they're playing together and they have a new energy to them. Plus, they actually have a little talent in Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert and Darren Collison.

Best-case scenario: Consider who they're chasing. It's not like the Sixers are some dominant group. There's definitely potential for Philly to slip. It's hard to see Indiana catching all the way up to the Knicks, but there's no reason the Pacers can't push for seventh and therefore, setting up a seven-game series against the Heat, a team they've played really well thus far. I doubt Indy could top Miami in the opening round, but it could definitely steal a game or two and build some momentum for next year.

Worst-case: They lose five straight and drop out of the picture. Eighth in the East right now is about as fragile a position there is in the league. One moment, you're a playoff team. They next, you're 10 games under .500 and headed for a high pick in the lottery. Indiana definitely is riding that line.


Charlotte Bobcats (26-34)

Before the Bobcats did the right thing and became sellers at the deadline, they looked to be prime contenders for a playoff spot. But losing Gerald Wallace hurts a lot. There's still enough talent to compete because come on, it's not like they've got to win 50, but it's an uphill climb.

Best-case scenario: Best-case is actually worst-case for Charlotte in this case. They aren't doing themselves any favor by making the playoffs. It'd be nice to sell those tickets for two home games and get that experience, but this team is trying to rebuild so sacrificing that lottery pick probably isn't worth it. So best-case, they drop a number of games, slip further down the ladder and get a higher pick.

Worst-case scenario: The Bobcats don't feel far off from really falling far down the ladder. But they also aren't far off from assuming control of eighth. If Charlotte pulls together with Tyrus Thomas coming back, they could easily takeover Indiana and have the right to get swept by Boston in the opening round.

Milwaukee Bucks (23-36)

I wish someone could explain to me why the Bucks aren't in the playoffs right now. There's really no excuse for it, especially considering it doesn't take much effort at this point. The team is basically the same group from last season's surprise postseason squad. Yes, there have been injuries. Yes, Andrew Bogut isn't entirely healthy. Yes, they have 46 power forwards on the roster. But this team has talent and for the 50th time, it doesn't take a lot to get there!

Best-case scenario: The Bucks have already put themselves in a hole so just getting to eighth is probably their best shot. They do have the talent to push someone in the opening round though. When you play defense like Milwaukee, you can hang tough against anyone. Nobody is fearing the deer this season, but they could at least run out in front of a contender and dent their car.

Worst-case: They go numb and slip way down. They're just another injury away from becoming about as relevant as the Wizards in the East.

Since: Jan 12, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2011 1:51 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

rebel41...first off, NO WAY is fields the rookie of the year.  0% chance.  ever hear of griffin or wall?  the steal of the draft, yes....just not the ROY. 
and no.  the knicks are not contenders.  they have a good start, but they aren't deep enough to compete with the big boys (c's, lakers, spurs, mavs, bulls, and semi contenders the heat).  who do they have on their bench?  t. douglas is ok, but the rest....not much.  that and they play no defense, and you have to play defense to win it all.  the knicks are getting there...just not quite there yet.

Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2011 1:41 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

Who cares what Bottom Feeders make the Playoffs. The KNICKS now have Stoudamire-Melo-Billups-Rookie of the Year Fields and whatever center they want to start out of the two. The bench will come in to play defense and in 20 more Games we will see the finished Product. There is no reason the Knicks cannot be a contender this year just the opposite of what this article says.

Since: Mar 6, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2011 12:46 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

Doug Collins really deserves coach of the year with what he has done in Philly. The team plays his sytem and they're on the same page (are you listening Miami?). The Bucks are a mystery.....they SHOULD be better. But injuries have hurt them, no question. Plus the league adjusted to Jennings (like it has to Tyreke). The pacers are a year and one more player away from being a very good team. But as is, they wont go anywhere. I dont quite see why Orlando gets so little love. Why they arent considered an elite team in the east. I actually think the east is a race between Orlando and Chicago. Boston is going to miss Perk in the playoffs.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2011 10:36 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

That's one scenario, the Sixers won't push anyone to 6 or 7 game series. The other is, they've played the Celtics better than the Heat. Are 1-1 vs the Bulls. Beat the Spurs, Played the Mavs close too. Lakers, they led them after 3 quarters and weren't playing well to that point, both teams that is. But this is the East, so the comparison to the West teams is there to show they come and play with the elite teams and are a few shots or a few less turnovers from getting more respect. Anyway, the Sixers should have never lost to the Hawks, but are 1-1 against them. The Sixers are 1-2, I'll throw out the Sixers win, because the Magic had just made a 3 player deal, there were physicals to pass and the Magic didn't want to jeopardize killing a deal over a 76ers match up. So the Sixers let one game get away from them vs the Magic, so the 0-2 in full strength games, is 1-1 if the Sixers win that close OT game. The regulation loss, again, a 3 pointer or couple more baskets with a couple of careless turnovers less, they could very well be 2-0 vs the Magic. They are 1-1 vs the Knicks, but that was pre Mello & Billups. So who really knows where they are there. True the Knicks won a couple of big ones vs the better teams, but against the Cavs, a common recent opponent, the Sixers won and the Knicks lost. I think the Sixers play their 5,6, 7 or 8 players getting double digits, they'll play games to the last seconds and shot and they may be the scary upset in the first round.

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2011 6:52 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

You know I don't think I will bank on it.  I'd probably give you at least 50-1 odds that that does not happen.

Since: Jul 13, 2010
Posted on: March 5, 2011 4:32 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

sixers are gonna get the 6th spot in the the east and they are gonna win their first round, bank on it...

Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2011 4:17 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

Go 76ers! Just had to say it.

Since: Mar 5, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2011 2:31 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

No, the Piston's had a very powerful built up Hemi V8. They just drove it to hard and blew it up. They have a lot of good motors there in Detroit but chose to go with a 4 cylinder instead. Not a good choice :) 

Since: Nov 26, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2011 1:50 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

What no Pistons !!! Their V8 must be runnin on about 3 cylinders right now !!! LOL

Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2011 1:36 pm

Opposite of race: Who finishes 8th in the East?

but they could at least run out in front of a contender and dent their car.

Lmao. I wonder too what happened to the Bucks. They had a pretty good team last year and not much changed.

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