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The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

Posted on: February 26, 2011 1:25 am
Edited on: February 26, 2011 1:55 am
Posted by Matt Moore

This is it. This is rock bottom. It cannot get worse than this, right? Doesn't matter if they're winning or losing, this is the very bottom of the professionalism barrel.  There are ruins, there is rubble, and there's the Detroit Pistons

Hours after four veteran players staged a protest sleep-in , and were summarily benched, things hit a new low. First, Kuester was ejected in the Pistons' loss to the Sixers in Philadelphia tonight. And the players responded as you'd expect professionals to. By laughing. 


To top it off, Vincent Ellis of the Detroit Free Press is reporting that before the All-Star break, the players walked to the shower postgame while Kuester was talking. Double ugh. 

Okay, long story, short story. 

Short story: The only victims here are the fans of the Pistons, who don't deserve this. Any of it. 

Long story: Kuester has been losing his players for a year and a half.  There have been clashes since the beginning, along with losses piling up. The biggest questions surround Rip Hamilton and his benching this season. On the outside it appears like Hamilton is just a petulant player struggling to accept he's no longer the star he once was. But combined with all the other stories of unrest, it certainly seemed like there was a pattern to suggest that Kuester was at least partially responsible for the chemistry problems.

But this?

It's unproffessional. To a ridiculous degree. You're not happy? Fine. Voice it to management. Or the press. Or on Twitter.  But don't stoop to what you consider to be his level by resorting to childish, immature behavior that will follow you wherever you look to go for the short remainders of your careers.  It's inexcusable, and the Pistons need to suspend and/or fine the players for their behavior. Regardless of what they decide to do with Kuester, the players have to be held accountable, because you can't run a team like this. 


To make John Kuester into a victim here is to deny a pattern of unrest among the players and a disturbing deviation from the norm. There are those that stipulate it was Tayshaun and Rip's attitudes that helped lead to all the coaching turnover of the past seven years. But there's a huge gap between being difficult, and veteran guys who at the very least were known as hard workers. To not come to work is the nuclear option. To engage in this kind of behavior goes above and beyond desperate measures. The Pistons are only six games out of the playoffs, but they're also 18-29 (yes, the middle of the East is still terrible), and there have been multiple questionable moves by Kuester. 

Consider it this way.  If you're an executive, and employees who have helped your company for close to a decade all of a sudden start engaging in completely inappropriate behavior in response to their manager, you're going to punish them.  You can't just let the example stand that it's okay not to respect the company and it's management. But at the same time, you're definitely going to want to examine the manager to see why it is his employees are the ones behaving in this manner. You have to look at the whole picture while reacting responsibly. 

But at the heart of this? This is on Joe Dumars. He didn't move Rip Hamilton last year when he still had trade value despite the acquisition of Ben Gordon. He didn't move Tayshaun Prince despite his trade value. And he was completely silent at the deadline, despite needing to make moves badly. Maybe it's the ownership situation, still in flux. But the situation is untenable. One way or another, Dumars has to step in now. 

It's not just time. It's past time.

We'll see what's left of the Pistons when all of this is over. Though we do support John Schuhmann of's idea for Elizabeth Shue from "Adventures in Babysitting" to step in.

Since: Jul 10, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 1:53 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

As a piston fan it pains me to try to watch a piston game now a days.the worst part is i don't see it getting any better anytime soon.there are way too many ego and problems with-in the organization.while i give credit to dumars for the 03 championship and great team he assembled he has done absolutely nothing since then, but drive this organization into the started with the darko pick and has gone down hill ever since.Then we bring the players into the mix.Now while i understand T-Mac has a big head and ego he honestly has had a good seasonoverall and plus i understand the pistons had to sign him to try to get the area exicited about the pistons in the begining of the season.not to mention how cheap he came.Then we have Mr. Hamilton who is nothing but a cry baby who just needs to go away.he says Detroit doesn't play him right and he sets up this player protest sit down, yet he could have been gone.Cleveland was going to take him and buy out his contract.Then they were trading him to Chicago or Boston.So lets see stay on a team that you say treats you and plays you unfairly or go to a contending play-off team, is that really such a hard decision???But guess what Hamilton did, he decided to veto the trade and stay on the team that he says miss uses him and disrespected him.Then we have the owner screwing around with the team by trying to play hardball with selling the team.i hope she realizes that if she waits to long she won't get anything in return and she is also damaging the team by not allowing them to get the new direction, that this team needs so badly, started.

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: February 27, 2011 3:00 am

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

the roster of pistons is terrible...3/5 yaers of good choices need

Since: Jul 11, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 3:37 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

Let all of these guys start the lockout 25 games early.  Call up a bunch of D League players and see if you can find a diamond in the rough.  It's not like these buffoons are going anywhere, anyway.  Add this as another reason people are behind the owners in the labor battle.

Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: February 26, 2011 3:25 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

A team this decade that went to 6 East finals in a row and one a title. How bad is current mgmt to have gone the other way so fast. I say fire everyone if the owner as current mgmt clearly is the problem to let it get to this point. I remember the Celts after Bird Retired in early 90's sucked for next 10 years. This is looking same way.

Since: Mar 12, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2011 2:35 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

It's not clear what the thinking was behind McGrady's signing to begin with.  The focus should have been on developing the younger guys.  McGrady would have been better as a bench player on a contending team (similar to Michael Finley's former role in San Antonio, or Kurt Thomas' role in Chicago).  

They also should have been able to trade Richard Hamilton and Ben Wallace since neither fits with their rebuilding situation.  It would have taken a good negotiator to find someone to take Hamilton's contract.  But he still could be a prodcutive player for some team and they didn't get the job done.

Now you have the debacle of some guys literally staging a walk out on their own team.

Joe Dumars' stock has sure fallen in two years. 

Someone should be called on the carpet for this mess.

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: February 26, 2011 2:28 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

As an Orlando Magic fan from day 1, I'd expect nothing less from Tracy McGrady. Anyway what is the difference between the state of the Pistons and the state of Detroit? There is none. They are both unmittigated disasters and the cause is the same for both city and team....selfish, self-centered, arrogant, greedy, spoiled, bastards!!!! The spoiled auto workers destroyed the city now the spoiled players have destroyed the team. I mean we are talking about a city that has to offer police officers $1000 homes to try and get them to actually live in the city...and the vast majority of the officers have said, "No thanks". Thanks auto union, thanks NBA players union. Oh well, what can you expect? Anybody knows that without basketball 90% of NBA players would be in prison or dead. Pay them based on their IQ and they'd make 50 cents a game....that idiot McGrady would owe 50 cents a game.

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: February 26, 2011 2:03 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

Suspend them all, for the rest of the season, period.  Let's see if they start wanting to play when they become complete undesirables.

Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: February 26, 2011 1:49 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

Tracy Mc Grady sucks.

Since: Sep 3, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 12:52 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

god i would love to slap that smile off mcgradys face. i never seen someone so washed up at such a young age. now other teams even wanted him. in fact im going to get tix for next home game. that large soda that just hit you in the head tmac. i threw it bitch

Since: Sep 3, 2009
Posted on: February 26, 2011 12:49 pm

The Pistons should be declared a disaster zone

a bucnch of f--king clowns on that bench. i dont want to see them on the floor the rest of the season

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